2004 Oscar Shouldabeens

[Kellens101]

Best Visual Effects
3. I, Robot
2. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
1. Spider Man 2

Best Sound Editing
3. The Polar Express
2. Spider Man 2
1. The Incredibles

Best Sound Mixing
5. The Polar Express
4. Spider Man 2
3. Ray
2. The Incredibles
1. The Aviator

Best Makeup
3. The Sea Inside
2. A Series of Unfortunate Events
1. The Passion of the Christ

Best Costume Design
5. Finding Neverland
4. Ray
3. Troy
2. A Series of Unfortunate Events
1. The Aviator

Best Art Direction
5. Finding Neverland
4. The Phantom of the Opera
3. A Very Long Engagement
2. A Series of Unfortunate Events
1. The Aviator

Best Cinematography
5. The Phantom of the Opera
4. The Passion of the Christ
3. A Very Long Engagement
2. The Aviator
1. House of Flying Daggers

Best Film Editing
5. Finding Neverland
4. Ray
3. The Aviator
2. Million Dollar Baby
1. Collateral

Best Original Song
5. Learn to Be Lonely
4. Look to Your Path
3. Believe
2. Al otro lado del rio
1. Accidentally in Love

Best Original Score
5. Finding Neverland
4. The Passion of the Christ
3. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
2. The Village
1. A Series of Unfortunate Events

Best Adapted Screenplay
5. Finding Neverland
4. The Motorcycle Diaries
3. Million Dollar Baby
2. Before Sunset
1. Sideways

Best Original Screenplay
5. Hotel Rwanda
4. The Aviator
3. Vera Drake
2. The Incredibles
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Best Supporting Actress
5. Natalie Portman
4. Sophie Okonedo
3. Cate Blanchett
2. Virginia Madsen
1. Laura Linney

Best Supporting Actor
5. Jamie Foxx
4. Alan Alda
3. Clive Owen
2. Morgan Freeman
1. Thomas Haden Church

Best Actress
5. Annette Bening
4. Catalina Sandino Moreno
3. Hilary Swank
2. Kate Winslet
1. Imelda Staunton

Best Actor
5. Johnny Depp
4. Leonardo DiCaprio
3. Don Cheadle
2. Jamie Foxx
1. Clint Eastwood

Best Director
5. Taylor Hackford
4. Alexander Payne
3. Mike Leigh
2. Martin Scorsese
1. Clint Eastwood

Best Picture
5. Finding Neverland
4. Ray
3. The Aviator
2. Million Dollar Baby
1. Sideways

[Kellens101]

Best Picture: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Best Director: Lars von Trier for Dogville
Best Actor: Liam Neeson in Kinsey
Best Actress: Imelda Staunton in Vera Drake
Best Supporting Actor: Thomas Haden Church in Sideways
Best Supporting Actress: Laura Linney in Kinsey
Best Original Screenplay: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Best Adapted Screenplay: Sideways
Best Score: Birth
Best Art Direction: The Aviator
Best Costume Design: Vanity Fair
Best Editing: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Best Cinematography: Hero
Best Sound: The a Incredibles
Best Foreign Film: Bad Education

[ksrymy]

Best Picture
01. Tropical Malady
02. Birth
03. Before Sunset
04. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
05. Sideways
06. Million Dollar Baby
07. Kinsey
08. The Sea Inside
09. Downfall
10. Kill Bill, Vol. 2

Best Actor
01. Javier Bardem, The Sea Inside
02. Clint Eastwood, Million Dollar Baby
03. Banlop Lomnoi, Tropical Malady
04. Bruno Ganz, Downfall
05. Paul Giamatti, Sideways

06. Liam Neeson, Kinsey

Best Actress
01. Nicole Kidman, Birth
02. Annette Bening, Being Julia
03. Julie Delpy, Before Sunset
04. Imelda Staunton, Vera Drake
05. Kate Winslet, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

06. Hilary Swank, Million Dollar Baby

Best Supporting Actor
02. Morgan Freeman, Million Dollar Baby
02. Peter Sarsgaard, Kinsey
03. Thomas Haden Church, Sideways
04. Clive Owen, Closer
05. David Carradine, Kill Bill Vol. 2

06. Liev Schreiber, The Manchurian Candidate

Best Supporting Actress
01. Laura Linney, Kinsey
02. Cate Blanchett, The Aviator
03. Virginia Madsen, Sideways
04. Natalie Portman, Closer
05. Daryl Hannah, Kill Bill Vol. 2

06. Sandra Oh, Sideways

Best Director
01. Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Tropical Malady
01. Clint Eastwood, Million Dollar Baby
02. Richard Linklater, Before Sunset
03. Michel Gondry, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
04. Alexander Payne, Sideways

06. Oliver Hirschbiegel, Downfall

[Reza]

Best Picture
Bad Education
Kinsey
Million Dollar Baby
The Sea Inside
*Sideways

Best Actor
Javier Bardem, The Sea Inside
Gael Garcia Bernal, Bad Education
Jeff Bridges, The Door in the Floor
Paul Giamatti, Sideways
*Liam Neeson, Kinsey

Best Actress
Annette Bening, Being
Nicole Kidman, Birth
Imelda Staunton, Vera Drake
*Hillary Swank, Million Dollar Baby
Kate Winslet, Finding Neverland

Best Supporting Actor
Thomas Hayden Church, Sideways
Morgan Freeman, Million Dollar Baby
Massimo Girotti, Facing Windows
Jeremy Irons, The Merchant of Venice
*Clive Owen, Closer

Best Supporting Actress
Cate Blanchett, The Aviator
Laura Linney, Kinsey
*Virginia Madsen, Sideways
Sophie Okonedo, Hotel Rwanda
Natalie Portman, Closer

Best Director
Pedro Almodovar, Bad Education
Bill Condon, Kinsey
Clint Eastwood, Million Dollar Baby
Mike Leigh, Vera Drake
*Alexander Payne, Sideways



Edited By Reza on 1218597142

[Reza]

I finally caught up with Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Am I the only one on this board who doesn't think this film is the second coming?

No, but at 44 you're probably the youngest.

OMG to think I was 44 then. How time flies !!

[paperboy]

BEST PICTURE
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Hotel Rwanda
The Incredibles
La Mala Educación
Vera Drake

BEST DIRECTOR
Pedro Almodovar – La Mala Educación
Brad Bird - The Incredibles
Terry George – Hotel Rwanda
Michel Gondry - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Mike Leigh – Vera Drake

BEST ACTOR
Javier Bardem – The Sea Inside
Gael Garcia Bernal – La Mala Educación
Jim Carrey - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Don Cheadle – Hotel Rwanda
Leonardo DiCaprio – The Aviator

BEST ACTRESS
Claire Danes – Stage Beauty
Laura Linney – P.S.
Catalina Sandino Moreno – Maria Full of Grace
Imelda Staunton – Vera Drake
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Topher Grace – P.S.
Rhys Ifans – Enduring Love
Clive Owen - Closer
Peter Sarsgaard – Kinsey
Rodrigo de la Serna – Diarios de Motocicleta

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett – The Aviator
Laura Linney - Kinsey
Sandra Oh - Sideways
Natalie Portman - Closer
Amanda Seyfried - Mean Girls

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Charlie Kaufman
Hotel Rwanda - Terry George, Keir Pearson
The Incredibles - Brad Bird
La Mala Educación - Pedro Almodovar
Vera Drake - Mike Leigh

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Closer - Patrick Marber
Diarios de Motocicleta - Jose Rivera
Enduring Love - Joe Penhall
Mean Girls - Tina Fey
Stage Beauty - Jeffrey Hatcher

[flipp525]

Linney's wonderful performance was lead through-and-through. She should have been nominated there, leaving room in the supporting race for Lynn Redgrave's superb monologue, a performance I like even more than her sister's similarly brief but stunning role in Atonement.

I could not agree with you more on this, rudeboy. Lynn Redgrave's monologue in that film stopped me dead in my tracks. A genuinely superb performance.

[Sabin]

Wow. Lots of 'Eternal Sunshine' bashing. No idea how this came to be.

I just watched 'Before Sunset' again for the third time or so. I can't imagine another time where my two favorite films complimented each other so perfectly. Both films are neurotic in their romantic isolationism and androcentric conceits of romantic fulfillment. In watching 'Before Sunset' again, my head absolutely spins trying to make sense of the narrative because I know! that Jesse and Celine's shifts in conversation is tantamount to a complex narrative, their discourses are building, deepening, with something very powerful to say about the nature of relationships but so effortlessly and organically that I'm often caught off guard. It's a beautiful film and the best that Linklater has done.

[Big Magilla]

Yes, but I'm unhappy with it - looks odd to me, can't teach an old dog new tricks I guess. I'm in the process of reinstating my tried and true winners based on N.Y. or L.A. release date, whichever came first.

[Reza]

I am quite pleased to see that these Oscar Shouldabeen threads have such a life. I am contemplating revising mine yet again to go by year of release in country of origin placing films in their proper hisotrical respective.

Did you ever get around to doing this?

[rudeboy]

Laura Linney's performance in Kinsey got 4 votes in the Leading Actress category and 9 votes in the Supporting Actress category. As a result she is tied in the last place of the Supporting Actress category, and almost failed to be nominated at all.

Linney's wonderful performance was lead through-and-through. She should have been nominated there, leaving room in the supporting race for Lynn Redgrave's superb monologue, a performance I like even more than her sister's similarly brief but stunning role in Atonement.

[Eric]

And Bill Condon still couldn't manage a director nod. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[Cinemanolis]

Besides Neeson, there was also Giamatti who was also snubbed. If i remember well Giamatti's snub was an even bigger surprise.
And we can also see the results of the category confusion. Laura Linney's performance in Kinsey got 4 votes in the Leading Actress category and 9 votes in the Supporting Actress category. As a result she is tied in the last place of the Supporting Actress category, and almost failed to be nominated at all.

[rudeboy]

Good work, Cinemanolis, and a good read. I'm happy Million Dollar Baby held Eternal Sunshine off the top spot for best picture, and that we had the good taste to reward Neeson, one of the most baffling oscar snubs of recent times.

[Cinemanolis]

Here’s how the 2004 Oscar Shouldabeen if we would have voted (25 voters)

BEST PICTURE

1. Million Dollar Baby -------18
2. Eternal Sunshine of the --- 13
3. Before Sunset ---------------11
4. Kinsey ------------------------11
5. Sideways ---------------------10

6. Bad Education ---------------8
7. The Aviator ------------------7
8. Dogville ----------------------4
9. The Dreamers ---------------4
10. Hotel Rwanda ---------------4
11. Vera Drake -------------------4

BEST DIRECTOR

1. Clint Eastwood, Million Dollar Baby ---- 18
2. Michael Gondry, Eternal Sunshine of ----14
3. Pedro Almadovar, Bad Education ---------13
4. Martin Scorsese, The Aviator --------------10
5. Alexander Payne, Sideways -----------------8

6. Bill Condon, Kinsey --------------------------7
7. Richard Linklater, Before Sunset -----------6
8. Mike Leigh, Vera Drake ---------------------5
9. Zhang Yimou, Hero --------------------------5
10. Lars Von Trier, Dogville --------------------4
11. Bernardo Bertolucci, The Dreamers --------4

BEST ACTOR

1. Liam Neeson, Kinsey -----------------------15
2. Paul Giamatti, Sideways --------------------14
3. Clint Eastwood, Million Dollar Baby -----13
4. Jim Carey, Eternal Sunshine of the --------10
5. Leonardo Di Caprio, The Aviator ---------10

6. Don Cheadle, Hotel Rwanda ---------------8
7. Jamie Foxx, Ray -----------------------------7
8. Gael Garcia Bernal, Bad Education -------6
9. Ethan Hawke, Before Sunset ---------------5
10. Javier Bardem, The Sea Inside -------------4
11. Kevin Bacon, The Woodsman -------------4
12. Topher Grace, In Good Company ---------4

BEST ACTRESS

1. Hilary Swank, Million Dollar Baby ----20
2. Julie Delpy, Before Sunset --------------17
3. Imelda Staunton, Vera Drake -----------17
4. Kate Winslet, Eternal Sunshine of -----15
5. Catalina S. Moreno, Maria Full of Grace-12

6. Annette Bening, Being Julia ------------11
7. Nicole Kidman, Birth --------------------7
8. Laura Linney, Kinsey --------------------4
9. Nicole Kidman, Dogville ----------------3

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

1. Clive Owen, Closer ----------------------- 18
2. Morgan Freeman, Million Dollar Baby- 16
3. Thomas Hayden Church, Sideways -----15
4. Peter Sarsgaard, Kinsey -------------------10
5. David Carradine, Kill Bill 2 --------------10

6. Rodrigo de la Serna, Motorcycle Diaries- 6
7. Live Schreiber, Manchurian Candidate – 6
8. Mark Ruffalo, Eternal Sunshine of ------ 4
9. Freddie Highmore – Finding Neverland -4
10. Paul Bettany – Dogville -------------------3
11. Phil Davis, Vaera Drake ------------------ 3
12. Mark Wahlberg, I Heart Huckabees ---- 3

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS

1. Cate Blanchett, The Aviator -------------17
2. Virginia Madsen, Sideways ------------- 15
3. Natalie Portman, Closer ------------------10

4. Sharon Warren, Ray -----------------------9
5. Sophie Okonedo, Hotel Rwanda -------- 9
6. Laura Linney, Kinsey ---------------------9

7. Laura Dern, We Don’t Live Here -------4
8. Patricia Clarkson, Dogville -------------- 4
9. Sandra Oh, Sideways --------------------- 3
10. Lynn Redgrave, Kinsey ------------------ 3
11. Scarlett Johansson, In Good Company – 3
12. Kirsten Dunst, Eternal Sunshine of the – 3
13. Kathrin Sass, Goodbye Lenin! ---------- 3