Big Magilla wrote
If you truly support the Me-Too movement you must reject this kind of absurdity which just cheapens it and will eventually result in blowing it up if we can't tell the difference between sexual predators, grossly inappropriate behavior and mildly annoying behavior which has never been appropriate, though tolerated. It shouldn't be tolerated, but it shouldn't be cause for burning at the stake, either.
She never accused him of being a sexual predator. She agrees with you. In fact, neither accuser have called him a sexual predator. They have only accused him of inappropriate behavior -- their only disagreement is that really they have the right to say whether or not it is "mildly annoying." The only people who have brought up "sexual predators" are people on the news putting words in their mouths asking if the Me Too movement has gone too far.
But let's be real: the only person burning Joe Biden at the stake is Joe Biden. He's the one doing this stuff in front of the cameras. Either nobody has told him to stop or it's not getting through. If the Vice President was doing that to your wife or daughter, you'd feel uncomfortable. Would you tell him to stop? I don't know if I would. But I know this. I like Joe Biden but I hate the fact that he does this shit all the time. I don't want my President doing that! It's a shame that it took somebody like Lucy Flores to come forward to say it but he can't keep getting away with it.
But imagine for a moment that Joe Biden had just come forward and just said "I've heard what Lucy Flores has said and in the wake of the Me Too movement, I've reflected on a lot of my behavior and it was wrong. I didn't think I was behaving inappropriately but I was." Then he can apologize, remind people that he cares about women by bringing up the Violence Against Women Act... Not only do I think he would have been forgiven but I think he would have gotten a bump.
But there's another elephant in the room.
Big Magilla wrote
I don't believe that Sanders himself is behind a ploy to drive Biden out of the running, but I don't trust his supporters. Even more ridiculous than this first woman's "he made me uncomfortable five years ago" assertions is the second woman's "I thought he wanted to kiss me" assertion that somehow means we must vote for a woman.
Okay, well, I'm one of his supporters. You've known me for years. Should we just end this conversation? Is that all you need to know about me? Or maybe you should make a greater effort to understand where people like me are coming from. I've come of age on this board and I've always made a great effort to learn from people like you, Tee, and Damien and to a large degree your opinions have shaped the person I am today with regards to film and politics. I respect your opinions and your beliefs, but you say you're not in a camp and I think you just revealed that you are.