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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:39 am
by FilmFan720
Catherine Zeta-Jones easily. Has there ever been a less energetic, less engaging song and dance performance? It is a role that relies on charisma, and Zeta-Jones proves she has none.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:53 am
by criddic3
Jolie, but I think she was good. Just overrated. Personally, I think Chloe Sevigny should have won, or perhaps Toni Collette.
I think I also have to view Michael Clayton again to get what was so Oscar-worthy about Swinton in this movie. I remember thinking that the acting was good, but not wildly so.
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:02 am
by Precious Doll
I watched Caligula again for the 4th time over the weekend with some friends and we had a great time. It's definetly the best way to view the film.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:15 pm
by Johnny Guitar
Seen it!
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:06 pm
by Precious Doll
Johnny Guitar wrote:Blasphemy, Uri, blasphemy. She is a perfect human being.
(And, in truth, in Age of Consent it wasn't her ankles I was looking at...)
Watch Caligula.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:20 pm
by Uri
I'm sure she was born with perfectly shaped calves, but being such a committed artist, she had some procedures done to achieve that right level of imperfection, required by her quest to be able to represent real human being on stage and screen. Ok?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:06 pm
by Johnny Guitar
Blasphemy, Uri, blasphemy. She is a perfect human being.
(And, in truth, in Age of Consent it wasn't her ankles I was looking at...)
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:02 pm
by Uri
Johnny Guitar wrote:They're all fair game ... except for a trio of utterly infallible actresses: Helen Mirren, Tilda Swinton, Julie Christie.
But have you ever looked, really looked, at Helen Mirren's ankles? Dietrich she's not.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:26 pm
by Johnny Guitar
I agree with Damien on this--we shouldn't play favorites and allow some fun or even quite bitchy ribbing for some performers and then cry foul if it happens to others.
They're all fair game ... except for a trio of utterly infallible actresses: Helen Mirren, Tilda Swinton, Julie Christie.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:08 pm
by Damien
Sabin wrote:You can put your tongue away, Nik. It's not going to happen.
And the only person who made fun of Abigail Breslin's weight more than you was me, Damien. I don't care if that was a fat suit, she's a fat little fat girl with a mullet and Down syndrome glasses. And it's perfectly all right for me to say that, just as much as saying that I thought Jennifer Hudson's eyes were going to cross trying to pronounce "Javier Bardem".
Yes of course I know I made fun of litle miss pudge, but that's part of my point. As I said, I take no offense if Hudson is made fun of. Being irreverant to all sorts of things -- including body types, personalities, actions/statements of those special magical people we call Stars -- is part of what this board should be all about. What I take umbrage at is when there is outrage at some of these statements and not others based solely upon how one feels about the object.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:03 pm
by ITALIANO
I never referred to any actor - even those whose performance I couldn't stand, like this Jennifer Hudson - by making fun of his or her physical appearence. Being fat isn't a crime in my book - and before someone asks, no, I'm not fat! And I'm surprised that especially Americans seem to be so obsessed with this kind of put-down - surprised because I don't think I've ever been in a country with more obese people.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:52 pm
by Sabin
You can put your tongue away, Nik. It's not going to happen.
And the only person who made fun of Abigail Breslin's weight more than you was me, Damien. I don't care if that was a fat suit, she's a fat little fat girl with a mullet and Down syndrome glasses. And it's perfectly all right for me to say that, just as much as saying that I thought Jennifer Hudson's eyes were going to cross trying to pronounce "Javier Bardem".
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:15 am
by Steph2
Aw Damien. Someone else had called her a cow way back when (I think when some people were making fun of Abigail Breslin -- including YOU my dear) and I was sort of piggy backing on that bad, old joke. But you're right. I shouldn't have. I don't want to contribute to our culture of unhealthy body images. On that, I was wrong.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:57 am
by Damien
Steph2 wrote:ITALIANO wrote:Akash wrote:I'm waiting for Marco to cast the third and probably last vote for Hudson.
Done.
Just sad that it will be the last.
No it won't. I can't stand that cow.
I couldn't care less what anyone thinks about Jennifer Hudson. I myself thought that Anika Noni Rose was the female revelation in Dreamgirls. And Jennifer Hudson does have some bovine qualities.
But where is the anger that a performer is referred to in this manner? A cow. To call Marion Cotillard a ham, to point out that it was the make-up which did the acting, and to point out that she worked the Bel Air-Beverly Hills-Malibu circuit with gusto in the month leading up to the Oscars is to be xenophobic. But ridiculing Jennifer Hudson's body gets a free pass.
It's blatant hypocrisy and a prime example of the selective outrage that runs rampant here. As long as you like a performer, it's a sin to denigrate him or her, even in a light-hearted manner. If you don't like 'em, then anything goes.
And as long as P.C.-ness sometimes runs amok here, there probably is an undercurrent of racism in making fun of Hudson's body type.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:57 am
by Steph2
Nik wrote:Oh my bad then, sorry Josh. I could've sworn she was one of those names you used to throw around way back when to convince us all that you were straight :p
ROTFLMAO!!! A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Sorry Josh, that just came out of nowhere. God, I think I just peed myself.