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Sonic Youth wrote:I would love to read a detailed history of actors who have walked out in the middle of the Oscar ceremony in disgust.

I'm sure Murphy won't be the last, and I'm damned sure he's in good company.

The list would be quite small. Murphy, Murray, maybe one or two others, It's really quite rude and childish. He may have company, but I would hardly call it "good".
Bill Murray left? I don't think so. He stayed until the Governor's Ball at least.
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yep. The company of frustration.
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Sonic Youth wrote:I would love to read a detailed history of actors who have walked out in the middle of the Oscar ceremony in disgust.

I'm sure Murphy won't be the last, and I'm damned sure he's in good company.
The list would be quite small. Murphy, Murray, maybe one or two others, It's really quite rude and childish. He may have company, but I would hardly call it "good".
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I would love to read a detailed history of actors who have walked out in the middle of the Oscar ceremony in disgust.

I'm sure Murphy won't be the last, and I'm damned sure he's in good company.
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anonymous wrote:I think what got him the Oscar was his heart-to-heart with Breslin in the motel just before he goes. But, yeah, nothing Oscar-worthy and the win is more of a manifestation of LMS love and career-salutation.
Definitely. it was a sentimental vote.
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Compare what happens to both Dreamgirls and Little Miss Sunshine when their respective nominees from this category bite the dust. Little Miss Sunshine loses its one ribald connection with anything resembling real, ill-tempered resentment (neither Carell nor the self-imposed mute count, since they're both young and petulant, and if their lives are being wasted it's on their time, not Mother Nature's), thus continuing the film's slide into horrifying feel-good treacle. Dreamgirls pauses for a moment ... then picks right up and continues on its episodic plot.

It's the impact of their respective death scenes, not so much the performances themselves (which are both alright, but neither of them anywhere near either actor's best work), that help me understand why Arkin won.
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Reza wrote:What a wonderful, wonderful surprise. A great actor finally honored!

Magilla, our dream appears to be running on the right track. Next stop.......O'Toole!
I agree. It was a wonderful surprise. I enjoyed this award so much!
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Big Magilla wrote:Alan Arkin wasn't being obnoxious to Seacrest, he has a severe hearing problem.

Oh. Well, color me misinformed then. Although, I have to say that the guy who drives the Budget Rent-a-Car shuttle at Logan Airport who I see once a month (who is, quite simply, one of the nicest people I've ever met) told me that Arkin was the rudest person he's ever dealt with before in 25 years of being in the service industry.

I can't begrudge Arkin his win here. Anyone who's delivered the performances he did in The Heart is a Lonely Hunter and Wait Until Dark can take home a "career" Oscar.




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Alan Arkin wasn't being obnoxious to Seacrest, he has a severe hearing problem.

The only rude supporting actor nominee was Eddie Murphy who left the ceremonies after losing to Arkin, no doubt to go home and watch himself on the Barbara Walters Special where he patted himself on the back for being such a big, rich movie star.

Performance wise, I still maintain that Adam Beach did the year's best supporting actor work in Flags of Our Fathers, followed by fellow non- nominee Michael Sheen in The Queen, the nominated Jackie Earle Haley and Murphy and the non-nominated Jack Nicholson in The Departed. Arkin was in my second tier along with Ben Affleck in the otherwise disappointing Hollywoodland and Wahlberg.

As I've said before, without Beach and Sheen in the running, I didn't care who won though I was pulling for Arkin, who've I've admired in practically everything he's done, even the failures like Catch-22. I thought his best recent work was in the little seen Noel, in which he played an old geezer in love with Paul Walker, who he thought was the reincarnation of his late wife. That film also featured Penelope Cruz in her best non-Spanish language performance and the always wonderful Susan Sarandon.
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I do have to give Arkin props though for his conversation with Ryan Seacrest on the red carpet before the ceremony. He was totally obnoxious to Seacrest, telling him he couldn't understand a word the man was saying to him and then, when confronted with the accusation that he had shouted expletives in front of Abigail Breslin during the shooting, he staunchly defended his behavior with the young actress, insisting that she had been wearing earphones during any scene where he used offensive language. When asked, he then claimed that he had no idea what the movie was rated nor did he care. If he'd been talking to anyone else, I'd have said he'd acted like an old asshole but since it was the completely annoying and self-hating Seacrest, I had to chuckle and secretly cheer him on.

Meryl Streep also acted like Seacrest was some annoying thing on the bottom of her shoe, it was hilarious.




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For a period, in the late 60s, Arkin was arguably the best actor working in movies. But to give him an Oscar for this is just silly.
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Sadly too Murphy was the best thing about Dreamgirls. I think Wahlberg, Haley and even Honsou in the otherwise excrement that is Blood Diamond, were all superior but if Dreamgirls had to win one acting award, it should have been Murphy.

Arkin winning here was a waste. I guess I'll just have to pretend his Oscar is for films like 13 Conversations. Just like I pretend Naomi Watts was nominated for Mullholland Drive and not 21 Grams.
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I think what got him the Oscar was his heart-to-heart with Breslin in the motel just before he goes. But, yeah, nothing Oscar-worthy and the win is more of a manifestation of LMS love and career-salutation.
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If I lost out in the first hour of a four-hour ceremony, I'd probably split pretty fast too. I really didn't feel Arkin did anything Oscar-worthy in the movie - you're right Penelope, you can boil it down to spewing expletives in his life-advice speech to Dano, and asking Frank to buy some "hardcore" porn. Yeah, it'll make you snicker, but it gets an Oscar? Definitely a career Oscar over the more deserving Haley.
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dws1982 wrote:Is it true that Eddie Murphy left after Alan Arkin won? I don't remember seeing him in the audience after that award, but I wasn't really looking for him either.
It wouldn't surprise me. I read somewhere back in 1997 when he lost the Best Actor (Musical/Comedy) Globe (The Nutty Professor) to Tom Cruise (Jerry Maguire), he also left early.
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