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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:30 pm
by anonymous1980
Even the Catholic Review site thought it was frightening:
Both fascinating and frightening, directors Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady's documentary "Jesus Camp" (Magnolia) is not about your typical Christian summer camp. Campfire songs and outdoor activities take a back seat to the camp's main mission: recruiting youngsters into "God's army" to "reclaim America for Christ."

Tucked away in the woods near (ironically) Devil's Lake, N.D., the "Kids on Fire" camp is run by children's minister Becky Fischer, an enthusiastic evangelical who almost envies the commitment of Islamic fundamentalists willing to kill themselves for their faith. It's something of that fervor she hopes to instill in the camp's young attendees, denouncing the evils of modern secular culture while stirring them into a spiritual frenzy and encouraging them to speak in tongues. Some writhe on the floor or tearfully confess sins while others perform strident dance routines with war paint on their faces.

Fischer says she wants them to know God's love, but the images bespeak fear.

Three children in particular come to the fore: Levi, a home-schooled 12-year-old, "saved" at age 5, who now wants to be a preacher; Rachael, a plucky 9-year-old who proselytizes strangers on the street; and 10-year-old Tory, who every morning pledges allegiance "to the Christian flag" with her siblings. At one point, Rachael explains how God prefers evangelical churches where the congregants are "jumping up and down, shouting his name" to the more sedate mainstream "dead churches."

Radio-show host Mike Papantonio, a Methodist, provides a counterpoint, criticizing Christians like Fischer for what he calls "indoctrinating" children into a militant Christianity having little to do with the Gospel. Is this harmful indoctrination? Or instilling passionately held values? The film leans toward the former.

Papantonio also suggests a political agenda, an assertion given some credence by the statement of the Rev. Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals, who boasts, "If the evangelicals vote, they determine the election."

Those who appear on screen are not necessarily representative of the evangelical community as a whole. But while it's understandable that many Christians earnestly feel alienated by the increasingly secular, materialistic and immoral culture -- and many of those same concerns (including opposition to abortion) may resonate with Catholics -- the picture painted is nevertheless sobering.

At one point, Fischer, swelling with pride and emotion over the children's intensity, acknowledges that many viewers will distressingly ask, "What are these kids going to be like when they grow up?" What, indeed?

The film contains some emotionally intense images and mature discussions. The USCCB Office for Film & Broadcasting classification is A-II -- adults and adolescents. The Motion Picture Association of America rating is PG-13 -- parents strongly cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13.

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:48 pm
by Franz Ferdinand
I personally speculated that He threw His napkin down in disgust like Uncle Rico did in Napoleon Dynamite.
It's just funny how similar these sects seem to the Islamic fanatics they don't tolerate. "We have the truth"?? Please, you don't have anything!

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:35 pm
by Sabin
He did what when in the who?

Can you dumb that down for me a little more?

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:11 pm
by anonymous1980
Sabin wrote:I bet he's rolling over in his tomb right now.

He resurrected on Easter Sunday, Sabin.

He is probably up in Heaven watching this documentary saying "tsk, tsk, tsk" and with Muhammad saying, "Now you know how I feel!"

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:58 pm
by Sabin
I bet he's rolling over in his tomb right now.

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:59 am
by Franz Ferdinand
Sabin wrote:Jesus Christ! What's wrong with these kids?
Jesus Christ is what's right with these kids!

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:54 am
by Eric
I remember thinking I'd love Hell House -- which probably did succeed as a horror movie, more than anything -- a couple years back, but I ended up coming away from it more depressed than anything. This looks like more of the same.

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:13 pm
by kooyah
They could really market this as a horror movie.

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:17 pm
by Sabin
I think "unpleasant reactionary" is the nicest possible way to put what these lil' bastards are going to become, or already are. This could be a terrific documentary but I can't bring myself to sit through two hours of these horrible little people.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:01 pm
by anonymous1980
Of course, the real tragedy of this movie is that these kids will be growing up with a very narrow-minded world-view. I have nothing against raising kids in a religion but parents must give them wiggle room for doubt, for exploring different and new ideas and meeting different people with different points of view and beliefs. They will grow intellectually (and even spiritually) if they are given that. But this type of indoctrinization does not allow them to do that. They will grow up to be either unpleasant reactionaries or completely fall apart and lose their faith eventually.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:21 pm
by Sabin
The trailer for 'Jesus Camp' scared the ever-loving #### out of me. I'm all for satire (I don't like toothless crap like 'Saved') but I can honestly say if the trailer is any tonal indication of what the film will be, I can't imagine laughing too much. Jesus Christ! What's wrong with these kids?



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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:31 am
by OscarGuy
I have a hard time seeing this as a satire. That lady Sonic posted was absolutely terrifying. In essence, without saying the words, she believes in violence in the name of God... scary that there are so many people like this in the world.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:43 pm
by Damien
I always like a good satire of the "religious" right. Saved was a lot of fun and this one looks like a hoot, too.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:10 pm
by Sonic Youth

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:10 pm
by anonymous1980
Click here.

Scary and sad, IMO.