Re: Web of Sex Scandals
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:35 pm
The jury found for Kevin Spacey in Anthony Rapp's civil sex-abuse suit against him.
The internet's oldest Oscar discussion forum.
https://uaadb.com/
I agree it does make it hard. I wish certain people in the industry would find something else to do with their lives but if someone like James Woods being a good example appears in a film directed by Brian de Palma I am going to watch it. However, if he appears in a film by an unknown director that has well largely panned I won't see it.Sabin wrote:Let's be real though. It becomes difficult when you can't look away from what you hate about those involved. The idea of looking at James Woods is repulsive to me. I'm thrilled Barbara Stanwyck never had a Twitter account.Precious Doll wrote
My feelings exactly. Despite my disdain for a number of people in the film industry, both in front and behind the camera I will continue to separate 'art' or in some cases 'product' from the people involved.
Certainly, rewatching films made years ago one is always going to have a different experience but I have not and will not ever stop seeing a film from anyone with anyone for their personal lives or what they may have done. If one starts to draw lines, where does one stop?
Let's be real though. It becomes difficult when you can't look away from what you hate about those involved. The idea of looking at James Woods is repulsive to me. I'm thrilled Barbara Stanwyck never had a Twitter account.Precious Doll wrote
My feelings exactly. Despite my disdain for a number of people in the film industry, both in front and behind the camera I will continue to separate 'art' or in some cases 'product' from the people involved.
Certainly, rewatching films made years ago one is always going to have a different experience but I have not and will not ever stop seeing a film from anyone with anyone for their personal lives or what they may have done. If one starts to draw lines, where does one stop?
My feelings exactly. Despite my disdain for a number of people in the film industry, both in front and behind the camera I will continue to seperate 'art' or in some cases 'product' from the people involved.Sabin wrote: My answer would be, it's up to you to decide. I won't be giving up Woody Allen. I will be watching Annie Hall, Manhattan, and Hannah and Her Sisters for the rest of my life. I'm not going to pretend like they're not part of me. I'm not going to act like I am superior to them.
Stanwyck didn't help destroy anyone's career. Like many in the post-war years in all walks of life, as knuckleheaded as it seemed to some then and most now, she considered Communists in the arts a real threat to the American way of life. She was a staunch conservative Republican at a time when liberals and conservatives could actually be friends - Henry Fonda and James Stewart, John Ford and John Wayne and so on. Fonda with whom she made several films including The Lady Eve had a lifelong crush on her. At the height of the HUAC hearings she amicably made The Two Mrs. Carrolls opposite HUAC protestor Humphrey Bogart and post-McCarthy she starred opposite staunch liberal James Cagney in These Wilder Years. Actors from fellow conservative William Holden in Golden Boy to ultra-liberal Jane Fonda in Walk on the Wild Side praised her generosity in helping them early in their careers.Greg wrote:Barbara Stanwyck was a great actress. She was also a McCarthyite who publicly supported the House Un-American Activities Committee and the blacklist. How do you weigh her artistic contributions against the lost artistic contributions of the careers she helped to destroy?
Lord this woman needs to get a bloody life. So much time and energy wasted writing and obsessing over Woody Allen.Sabin wrote:Read this article: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/201 ... trous-men/
Read this article: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/201 ... trous-men/Greg wrote
This made me think about how does the artistic contribution of someone weigh against that person's harming the artistic contributions of others. I am thinking about accusations that Miro Sorvino made that Harvey Weinstein tried to end her career after she refused his sexual advances. How do you weigh the contributions he made from producing films to the contributions Sorvino could have made with performances she was denied because of Weinstein?
This, of course, goes beyond sex. For example, Barbara Stanwyck was a great actress. She was also a McCarthyite who publicly supported the House Un-American Activities Committee and the blacklist. How do you weigh her artistic contributions against the lost artistic contributions of the careers she helped to destroy?
The warning comes from personal experience. Some may not understand how difficult it can be to see this information without warning. I wish I didn't understand.ITALIANO wrote: The article is detailed and, yes, graphic, but as the general age on this board is, well, quite older than 18, I don't understand the warning.
I am never happy when someone - or his career - is "finished", but I guess I am in the minority here, and I am proud to be.dws1982 wrote:Bryan Singer's Accusers Speak Out
If there's anything good that comes out of the Bohemian Rhapsody Oscar hype, maybe it's that this story could finish Singer in the way that Spacey's and Weinstein's allegations finished them.
Just a warning: The article has some pretty graphic language. In addition to the length, it's too potentially-triggering to just put out (or link to) without warning.