What a point here! I can´t accept the fact that you must award to a person only by the circumstance that perhaps this one is his last chance. Perhaps this is not the last one. Who knows?. The thing is that Whitaker deserves the award NOW, independently of the sentimentalism that predominates between some voters.Reza wrote:cam wrote:If people were "owed" Thelma Ritter would have got at least one award,and Randy Newman would have got more than one Oscar.
That was in the Hollywood of yore. The Academy knows better and will award O'Toole. Whitaker will get his chance in the future.
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yep. you´re right. It was a type mistake.Penelope wrote:Hustler wrote:As for the BP Winners, this board´s predictions so far are: 1) The Departed 2) The Queen 3) Letters
That poll isn't predictions, it's supposed to reflect our own choices, what we would vote for.
Still, I'm hopeful that the Academy will reflect our tastes to a degree: Babel has zero votes.
My sentiments exactly. In fact I think Whitaker gives a better performance - more in line with what the Academy admires and rewards. He is my personal choice for the win. However, I would be thrilled at O'Toole being an upset winner. He should have won long ago and this is probably his last chance. I,too, have awarded him my award previously (for Lion) so this year I can bypass him on my list.Big Magilla wrote:Whitaker is the likely winner, but what is the point of making predicitons if all we are going to do is echo what everyone else is saying? The category is ripe for upset. That said, Whitaker is my personal choice for best actor but only because I've already given O'Toole two of my awards.
That poll isn't predictions, it's supposed to reflect our own choices, what we would vote for.Hustler wrote:As for the BP Winners, this board´s predictions so far are: 1) The Departed 2) The Queen 3) Letters
Still, I'm hopeful that the Academy will reflect our tastes to a degree: Babel has zero votes.
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Yeah, but it seems that no one is even interested in seeing it, much less voting for it.Hustler wrote:LMS for BP? In terms of being risky I would prefer Letter for the main award.
My preference would be for The Departed or The Queen, but methinks the Academy, liek the guilds, is feeling silly this year.
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Cam, we are agreed on Scorsese.
Whitaker is the likely winner, but what is the point of making predicitons if all we are going to do is echo what everyone else is saying? The category is ripe for upset. That said, Whitaker is my personal choice for best actor but only because I've already given O'Toole two of my awards. The Academy, which has given late career Oscars to Henry Fonda (deserved), Paul Newman (for a good but not great performance), Geraldine Page (a mere shadow of her once great self), Don Ameche (for break dancing, which was actually done by a stand-in), Jack Palance (probably because Anthony Hopkins was nominated in the wrong category), James Coburn (for turnign serious) and Michael Caine (for shamelessly overacting) to name a few.
Had Thelma Ritter been a lead actress she would probably have won at some point, but we know that the supporting actress award is almost always given to an ingenue. Where were the Oscars for Edna May Oliver, Billie Burke, Beulah Bondi, Dame May Whitty, Gladys Cooper, Edith Evans, Agnes Moorehead, Elsa Lanchester, Angela Lansbury and on and on?
Ritter wasn't even given billing in her first two films, despite memorable performances in both Miracle on 34th Street and A Letter to Three Wives. Finally recognized, not only with billing but an Oscar nod for All About Eve, the nomination was probably considered recognition enough. She was only 45 at the time. She was 57 when she received her sixth and final nomination for Birdman of Alcatraz twelve years later. They probably thought she had years of fine performances and future nominations in which to honor her for a more substantive role.
As for Randy Newman, I don't think they took him seriously for a long time.
Whitaker is the likely winner, but what is the point of making predicitons if all we are going to do is echo what everyone else is saying? The category is ripe for upset. That said, Whitaker is my personal choice for best actor but only because I've already given O'Toole two of my awards. The Academy, which has given late career Oscars to Henry Fonda (deserved), Paul Newman (for a good but not great performance), Geraldine Page (a mere shadow of her once great self), Don Ameche (for break dancing, which was actually done by a stand-in), Jack Palance (probably because Anthony Hopkins was nominated in the wrong category), James Coburn (for turnign serious) and Michael Caine (for shamelessly overacting) to name a few.
Had Thelma Ritter been a lead actress she would probably have won at some point, but we know that the supporting actress award is almost always given to an ingenue. Where were the Oscars for Edna May Oliver, Billie Burke, Beulah Bondi, Dame May Whitty, Gladys Cooper, Edith Evans, Agnes Moorehead, Elsa Lanchester, Angela Lansbury and on and on?
Ritter wasn't even given billing in her first two films, despite memorable performances in both Miracle on 34th Street and A Letter to Three Wives. Finally recognized, not only with billing but an Oscar nod for All About Eve, the nomination was probably considered recognition enough. She was only 45 at the time. She was 57 when she received her sixth and final nomination for Birdman of Alcatraz twelve years later. They probably thought she had years of fine performances and future nominations in which to honor her for a more substantive role.
As for Randy Newman, I don't think they took him seriously for a long time.
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Peter, far be it from me to question your choice for actor, but I believe we discussed that "no one" was "owed". Scorsese will get Director, not because he " is owed," but because he directed a very good, if gory, film. (I cannot imagine it winning picture because of the R rating re language violence, etc.) Peter O'Toole is not in the same room with Whitaker. He was anything but inarticulate in last week's SNL. O'Toole's movie is a dog.
If people were "owed" Thelma Ritter would have got at least one award,and Randy Newman would have got more than one Oscar.
If people were "owed" Thelma Ritter would have got at least one award,and Randy Newman would have got more than one Oscar.
Let us all pray.Damien wrote:Wow, Magilla, under your scenario, Blabbel gets completely shut out . . .
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