Okay, Laura Reynolds!Mister Tee wrote:If I fumbled some fine points, please be kind.
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Okay, Laura Reynolds!Mister Tee wrote:If I fumbled some fine points, please be kind.
Well, to be fair, the counter-argument wasn't there to provide an Oscar narrative precedent for why Nyong'o could win. It was simply stated to illustrate that Lupita's screentime - which had been erroneously identified as only two scenes on this thread - was too small for consideration. I wasn't citing precedent with the case of Straight. And not to de-rail, but was Talia Shire's performance in Rocky seen as some sort of sure-thing in the supporting category? I can't even remember anything about it except for her mousiness and wearing a red cap.Mister Tee wrote:On the narrow issue of Lupita Nyong’o’s role…I early on expressed my feeling the role might be a bit too small for an Oscar. Saying, well, Beatrice Straight won for an even smaller role isn’t a very convincing counter-argument. Straight won because Talia Shire, the probable easy winner that year, was bumped to lead, and the rest of the slate consisted of a godawful performance from the actress who’d won just a year prior; a role just as small from another best picture nominee; a Gothic performance that’s very popular among fans but was as far from Oscar taste at the time as could be imagined; and, what should have been the winner, a young teenager in a role that made voters queasy, in a movie a lot of them loathed. Straight was the least objectionable choice that year. In 2013, we have plenty of options – though not one obvious alternative, which is what makes this an interesting race.
I had to read it twice, but now, seriously - I am sure that some Academy members can really vote this way.mlrg wrote:"I sure hope no one here ever has to endure the type of [insert tragedy, actor/actress and film] went through...if it happened, perhaps they wouldn't be so hard on [select him/her]."
Just copy and paste for future defending of an oscar nomination or win
best post everOscarGuy wrote:I sure hope no one here ever has to endure the type of whipping Nyong'o's character went through...if it happened, perhaps they wouldn't be so hard on her.
OscarGuy wrote:I sure hope no one here ever has to endure the type of whipping Nyong'o's character went through...if it happened, perhaps they wouldn't be so hard on her.
Eric wrote:You know who was awesome, showed range, suffered nobly and haunted the remainder of the film following her departure from it? Zhao Tao. Wish she was on Oscar's radar.
Honestly, Reza, you sound like someone who hasn't even seen the film. Nyong'o "screams and flails about" in two scenes (one when she's being whipped and then one when her wounds from that whipping are being tended to). She appears in several other scenes (five or six off the top of my head) and paints other colors. If your argument is that her "one-note" is screaming and flailing about throughout the film, that's just simply wrong.Reza wrote:I think Oprah Winfrey showed far greater range in The Butler than Lupita Nyong'o who is very one note throughout. All that screaming and flailing about may win her the Oscar though. Alfre Woodard's charcter may have been interesting but it's hardly a performance that will be recognised with a nomination.