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So in 20 years when Marion Cotillard plays an alzheimer's patient, what is going to happen?Big Magilla wrote:Insults? I don't think so. Most of the criticism had to do with her in-your-face campaigning vs. the non-campaigning of Julie Christie which is what probably cost Christie the award. Since then Cotillard has not campaigned for any of her films which is probably what cost her a nomination for Rust and Bone. What is so satisfying about her nomination this year is that it was honesty earned while at the same time her peers rejected Jennifer Aniston's in-your-face campaigning which had she been nominated instead would have completely turned me off the Academy.ITALIANO wrote:flipp525 wrote: I'm honestly just thankful she's nominated at all.
Me too. And Original BJ is right - the Academy at least has given her an Oscar already (a decision which back then was mostly greeted on this board with insults...).
The only reason she won't win this year is because she has won before and Julianne Moore, nominated for the fifth time, hasn't. It's ironic that Cotillard won an Oscar she shouldn't have over an actress playing a woman suffering from Alzheimer's only to lose a win that should easily be hers by another actress playing a woman suffering from the same disease.
Insults? I don't think so. Most of the criticism had to do with her in-your-face campaigning vs. the non-campaigning of Julie Christie which is what probably cost Christie the award. Since then Cotillard has not campaigned for any of her films which is probably what cost her a nomination for Rust and Bone. What is so satisfying about her nomination this year is that it was honesty earned while at the same time her peers rejected Jennifer Aniston's in-your-face campaigning which had she been nominated instead would have completely turned me off the Academy.ITALIANO wrote:flipp525 wrote: I'm honestly just thankful she's nominated at all.
Me too. And Original BJ is right - the Academy at least has given her an Oscar already (a decision which back then was mostly greeted on this board with insults...).
flipp525 wrote: I'm honestly just thankful she's nominated at all.
Italiano, I agree with you on nominating Cotillard for The Immigrant instead for this year. Her "silent-film" performance was really effective. And the whole film, while nothing deep, was rather well-executed. That final shot is just breathtaking.ITALIANO wrote:This year, I would have probably nominated her for The Immigrant instead, and I think her performance in 2012's Rust and Bone (which the Dardenne brothers sort-of co-produced) is still her best. But let's face it - this is one of the best actresses working in movies today, and if she were American and hadn't won before, a win for THIS movie wouldn't be impossible.
Big Magilla wrote:At least two. Katharine Hepburn's third and fourth Oscars were for UK/US co-productions. Meryl Streep's second was for a UK/US co-production and her third was for a UK/French co-production.
It makes alot of sense. How many actresses have won TWO Oscars for non-American movies?Big Magilla wrote:Her not being American makes no sense at all inasmuch as she previously won for a French film. .ITALIANO wrote:But let's face it - this is one of the best actresses working in movies today, and if she were American and hadn't won before, a win for THIS movie wouldn't be impossible.
Her not being American makes no sense at all inasmuch as she previously won for a French film. Rather, if Julianne Moore had won before as she might have for Far from Heaven and had Julie Christie won for her Alzheimer role in Away from Her instead of Cotillard, then Cotillard would more than likely be the front-runner this year.ITALIANO wrote:But let's face it - this is one of the best actresses working in movies today, and if she were American and hadn't won before, a win for THIS movie wouldn't be impossible.
It's a nice, little movie, less tough than others by the Dardennes, but still, obviously, committed, sincere. The style is direct, typically essential (one can only balk at the idea of an American remake - with Sandra Bullock in the leading role..?), and the message is urgent, if maybe a bit too obvious. I liked it - it's not a masterpiece, there are moments that I found unnecessary, but it's a good movie, and with a strong sense of a place, of a community. Cotillard is very good, as always, and the camera clearly loves her, but she's maybe too healthy to be really convincing as a woman suffering from depression - she's always a star, believable as a factory worker, but a star. This year, I would have probably nominated her for The Immigrant instead, and I think her performance in 2012's Rust and Bone (which the Dardenne brothers sort-of co-produced) is still her best. But let's face it - this is one of the best actresses working in movies today, and if she were American and hadn't won before, a win for THIS movie wouldn't be impossible.flipp525 wrote:Two Days, One Night follows a working-class wife and mother over one weekend as she attempts to navigate a work re-vote in her favor, one that has the potential to leave her unemployed. The film follows Sandra as she tries to woo her co-workers back to her side after she took a leave of absence because of depression. After awhile, the repetitiveness of the scenes in which she visits her co-workers becomes a testament in itself to Sandra's inner strength, even when she thinks she has nowhere left to turn. She always seems on the verge of collapsing back into the depression that cost her her job, but is occasionally emboldened by small acts of kindness. I don't think there was a more humanistic scene in all of this year's nominated films than the one where her co-worker breaks down and tells her that she has his vote because of something she did for him once on the job.
Marion Cotillard's now Oscar-nominated performance in the cinéma vérité style film sneaks up on you with such quiet power, such deeply felt emotional ferocity, it's enough to knock the wind out of you by the film's end. Simply unforgettable. I know she probably doesn't have a chance in hell of winning the Oscar, but I think her work in the Dardennes film definitely tops her Best Actress performance in La Vie en Rose.
Kudos to the Academy for going out of their way to recognize this very non-traditional-for-the-Academy performance.
Best post of the year so farUri wrote:Another proof Europeans are far more subtle than Americans – All Emmanuelle Riva did in Amour was soiling herself with urine for her nomination.ksrymy wrote:Robert Duvall joins Melissa McCarthy as the only people to be nominated for a performance in which they shit all over themselves on camera.
