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Absolutely correct
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So, my primary reaction to last night's episode was...
Did that kid look like a young Tom Cruise, or what? Right down to the prominent front tooth.
Did that kid look like a young Tom Cruise, or what? Right down to the prominent front tooth.
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Oh shit...SPOILERS in my post
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I totally wholeheartedly agree...with Tee's statement here as well as confusion over the finale...it is titled the Killing after all. I'm excited to see what lies ahead as I hope deciding Richmond innocent has not written them into a corner.Mister Tee wrote:For me, this whole show is generally mesmerizing, and I'm happy to follow it wherever it goes, for now.
Also why are people acting as though enjoyment of certain art and art seen as similar is mutually exclusive, were this always the case wouldn't that fly in the face of enjoying films by the same writer and/or director?
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I was a devoted fan of Twin Peaks -- enough I own the boxed set of the entire series -- and I guess I can see the argument the basic outline has been lifted here. But the same could be said of the BBC's The Hour, that it copied the three-way relationship at the heart of Broadcast News...and I still found the new series compelling on its own.
Last year's discussion of The Killing did get dropped, so we never dealt with the finale. I found the whole thing bizarre -- not the episode itself, but what I can only describe as the online critics' tantrum over it. I'll acknowledge I was somewhat surprised the murder wasn't resolved (publicity had suggested it would be), but, unlike most loud voices, I didn't experience the lack as a betrayal on the level of Benedict Arnold's.
And now that the story's back, two episodse in, I honestly find this a far more interesting situation than the simple unravelling of a murder (which is usually the least engaging aspect of a mystery anyway -- though of course it's ultimately essential). For me, this whole show is generally mesmerizing, and I'm happy to follow it wherever it goes, for now.
Last year's discussion of The Killing did get dropped, so we never dealt with the finale. I found the whole thing bizarre -- not the episode itself, but what I can only describe as the online critics' tantrum over it. I'll acknowledge I was somewhat surprised the murder wasn't resolved (publicity had suggested it would be), but, unlike most loud voices, I didn't experience the lack as a betrayal on the level of Benedict Arnold's.
And now that the story's back, two episodse in, I honestly find this a far more interesting situation than the simple unravelling of a murder (which is usually the least engaging aspect of a mystery anyway -- though of course it's ultimately essential). For me, this whole show is generally mesmerizing, and I'm happy to follow it wherever it goes, for now.
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No, it's not. It means just that: traces. Outside of the fact that The Killing explores the murder of a Washington girl, I see nothing of the bizarre, macabre and utterly twisted world that Lynch created with Twin Peaks. And since The Killing is itself a remake of a Danish show (Forbrydelsen), your argument would also suggest that the original was "ripping off" Twin Peaks, too. Your argument, honestly, is a bit muddy. And this is coming from someone who watched Twin Peaks in real time and thinks it's one of the best shows of all time.ksrymy wrote:"Traces" is a really nice way to describe a blatant rip-off of one of the greatest shows to ever air on television.
I haven't started the second season of The Killing just yet, but I'm hoping to dive in soon. This was a show that always felt more satisfying to me after watching 2-3 episodes at a time.
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"Traces" is a really nice way to describe a blatant rip-off of one of the greatest shows to ever air on television. It's easily my all-time favorite show as, no surprise to you guys, I'm a total Lynch junkie.Damien wrote:It has traces of Twin Peaks
But having a show about investigating the death of a local Washington girl who was killed in the woods who got involved somehow with a casino is way too damn similar for me to enjoy.
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I'm very disappointed I came so late to this party I was never able to discuss is show with Damien. I actually was able to catch the entire first season on AMC On Demand. I wonder how many of us here stuck with this, survived the ever-controversial finale, then dove in for a second go round, which started last week.
I thought it was superbly acted, Enos and Kinnamon stand out after the grieving parents, Sexton and Forbes. Probably my main argument for challenge to the series is the 24 hour episode arc, weeks worth of police work, political campaigning, grief, change, flights/non-flights, etc. take place during each single (apparently dusk at 2pm) Seattle day. By no means is it as unrealistic as Fox's 24 or anything just a bit of an issue in my mind.
I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of the first season and will continue to bask in the suspense and intrigue for another season...what other thoughts do we have, probably spoiler alerts will abound as the discussion opens.
I thought it was superbly acted, Enos and Kinnamon stand out after the grieving parents, Sexton and Forbes. Probably my main argument for challenge to the series is the 24 hour episode arc, weeks worth of police work, political campaigning, grief, change, flights/non-flights, etc. take place during each single (apparently dusk at 2pm) Seattle day. By no means is it as unrealistic as Fox's 24 or anything just a bit of an issue in my mind.
I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of the first season and will continue to bask in the suspense and intrigue for another season...what other thoughts do we have, probably spoiler alerts will abound as the discussion opens.
Thanks, Damien.Damien wrote:Dan, you can stream episodes through Amazon.com Prime for $1.99 per episode ($2.99 for HD)
http://www.amazon.com/s....killing
And also on iTunes
http://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-killing-season-1/id424131989
Glad to hear that. (I didn't read any of the reviews -- was afraid too much would be revealed.)Okri wrote: Damien, the reviews were damn near rapturous (the critics' collective excitement over the new AMC shows is getting rather tiresome, but than again, I really wasn't able to get into Mad Men) and the ratings were stellar. It isn't going anywhere (but frankly, I think I prefered Rubicon).
I'm still surprised, though, that no one I know in the real world is talking up the show, the way they do with Mad Men, or did, back in the day, with Twin Peaks.
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Because of the format, The Killing is a bit of a conundrum from me.
As a study in grief, it's quite terrific. Michelle Forbes and Sexton both do magnificent work (the acting across the board is really great). As Damien mentions, it's moody, atmospheric and incredibly evocative. The characters are fascinating and I quite like the interactions between them, so that means I'm pretty much a gimme.
But I feel like the show tipped it's hand way too early with who killed Rosie Larsen. So consequently, these episodes have a feeling of wheel-spinning. And I don't think the political angle is well written at all - the dialogue isn't all that great, and the scenes with Darren and Gwen (Billy Campbell and ???) just strike the wrong notes.
This reminds me most of Zodiac, and I thought that was an insufferable bore, so it's definitely a step up.
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Damien, the reviews were damn near rapturous (the critics' collective excitement over the new AMC shows is getting rather tiresome, but than again, I really wasn't able to get into Mad Men) and the ratings were stellar. It isn't going anywhere (but frankly, I think I prefered Rubicon).
As a study in grief, it's quite terrific. Michelle Forbes and Sexton both do magnificent work (the acting across the board is really great). As Damien mentions, it's moody, atmospheric and incredibly evocative. The characters are fascinating and I quite like the interactions between them, so that means I'm pretty much a gimme.
But I feel like the show tipped it's hand way too early with who killed Rosie Larsen. So consequently, these episodes have a feeling of wheel-spinning. And I don't think the political angle is well written at all - the dialogue isn't all that great, and the scenes with Darren and Gwen (Billy Campbell and ???) just strike the wrong notes.
This reminds me most of Zodiac, and I thought that was an insufferable bore, so it's definitely a step up.
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Damien, the reviews were damn near rapturous (the critics' collective excitement over the new AMC shows is getting rather tiresome, but than again, I really wasn't able to get into Mad Men) and the ratings were stellar. It isn't going anywhere (but frankly, I think I prefered Rubicon).
Dan, you can stream episodes through Amazon.com Prime for $1.99 per episode ($2.99 for HD)
http://www.amazon.com/s....killing
And also on iTunes
http://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-killing-season-1/id424131989
http://www.amazon.com/s....killing
And also on iTunes
http://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-killing-season-1/id424131989
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