New Developments III

[Sabin]

John Fetterman has started airing his first ads… on FOX News. It’s very protectionist, Left MAGA, “progressive.” At the very least, it’s always good to run as yourself. Voters hate a politician. Fetterman is clearly running as who he is, for better or worse. I have no problem with Democrats running ads on FOX News or going on the platform if done well. If Fetterman thinks he can flip FOX viewers, I wish him luck. Meanwhile, I remain concerned about Oz’s audience (women) crossing over to vote for him even if they vote Shapiro.

I’m pretty obsessed with this race. This isn’t just lynchpin territory for 2024. We have two people who are basically independents running cult of personality campaigns against Washington. The Democrat looks like a Republican and the Republican looks like a Democrat. I’m inclined to favor Oz for boring reasons: I just think it’s a Republican’s year and my gut says that hurts a traditional Democrat like Lamb. And it’s hard to make the case that a guy who couldn’t surpass 30% in his primary would make all the difference in the general. I am praying that Fetterman knows what he’s doing because I don’t want Oz in the Senate… or the White House.

[OscarGuy]

Further, quack or not, Mehmet Oz IS a doctor and who better to call Fetterman out than an actual doctor.

[Sabin]

Greg wrote
Despite being endorsed by almost the entire Pennsylvania Democratic establishment, Lamb was trounced by Fetterman in the primary by more than two to one. Lamb is such a weak candidate that it would be best to wait and see how Fetterman's health holds up.

That was before Fetterman had a heart attack, almost died, and covered it up. Who knows what effect that would have had earlier in the race, or now? Maybe -- like Bernie -- his brush will death will grab him a little sympathy and he'll go up in the poll. Or maybe he'll look dishonest and like he had years to treat his condition but didn't. If I had to guess, I'd say the latter, either way, I don't know how the party removes him without looking like a shit show. I'm mostly concerned about the fact that he's going up against a very polished opponent and Fetterman isn't known for prep as it is.

[Greg]

Fetterman said doctors have told him to continue to rest, eat well, exercise and focus on his recovery, “and that’s exactly what I’m doing.” Which is great because WE NEED TO FUCKING WIN.

Yes we do.

Any way we can get Conor Lamb back?

Despite being endorsed by almost the entire Pennsylvania Democratic establishment, Lamb was trounced by Fetterman in the primary by more than two to one. Lamb is such a weak candidate that it would be best to wait and see how Fetterman's health holds up.

[Big Magilla]

I think it's up to the party to name a replacement if the candidate drops out or drops dead before the election or after the election but before he or she takes office. I don't think it automatically falls to the candidate with the next highest number of votes, but Conor Lamb would be the logical replacement.

[Sonic Youth]

Fetterman said doctors have told him to continue to rest, eat well, exercise and focus on his recovery, “and that’s exactly what I’m doing.” Which is great because WE NEED TO FUCKING WIN.

Yes we do.

Any way we can get Conor Lamb back?

[Sabin]

David McCormick has conceded to Mehmet Oz.

Meanwhile his opponent, John Fetterman, just revealed that he almost died when he had his stroke. His doctor disclosed that Fetterman has cardiomyopathy, in which the heart muscle becomes weakened and enlarged.

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm ... ce=Twitter

Fetterman said doctors have told him to continue to rest, eat well, exercise and focus on his recovery, “and that’s exactly what I’m doing.” Which is great because WE NEED TO FUCKING WIN.

[Big Magilla]

It's just another one of his gaffes.

9mm is a strong caliber. The NYC police dept. has recently made it their weapon of carry replacing the .38 because the .38 was no longer effective against the "bad guys".

There is no reason not to ban weapons of war, which these high-powered rifles are. Properly stored hunting rifles OK, a handgun for home defense OK (even though I am personally against the idea), but the indiscriminate handguns and ghost guns, those made of components easily purchased through the mail that you can put together to make your own gun, cause the most deaths from guns in this country, not the assault weapons which cause the most harm and generate the most headlines. It should all be banned.

[OscarGuy]

I agree. I'm no lover of guns, but even I know that 9mm isn't the gun they should be focusing on. It's the AR-15 automatic rifle. It's the one all the mass murderers use.

[Sabin]

I had a pretty good idea of what the Trump White House looked like on a day to day basis, the level of control, general chaos, and organizational capacity. I feel like I had a pretty good idea of what the Obama and Bush White House looked like as well. I'm coming to grips with the fact that I have no idea what the Biden White House looks like on a day to day basis or how the decision was made to publicly speak out against 9mm's, which account for more than half the handguns sold in this country. What kinds of conversations are happening? I guess I'll just have to wait for the books to come out...

Even floating the idea of getting rid of 9mm's on Biden's part, what's the point? I can't imagine that bill would pass and we're going to hear about how the Democrats want to ban 9mm's for years now from the right. Meanwhile if Chuck Schumer can't put any gun control measure through the Senate, so it's just going to be seen as more Democratic inaction thanks to the filibuster. It's a lose-lose.

BTW: Please don't mistake me for anyone who has any kind of love for guns. I've been robbed at gunpoint as well as watched my first college roommate become radicalized by a skinhead group as well as purchase a magnum at a gun show in my first month of college. I hate guns.

[Heksagon]

At least in Uvalde, the press appear to be willing to criticize the police response and challenge the police narrative. That rarely happened before.

[Okri]

Every detail that comes out is excruciating. I have no idea how to move past raging nihilism when I think about this topic.

[Sabin]

We live in a nightmare country.

EDIT: the more I read about the school shooting in Uvalde, the more horrific it is. I do not want to paint an entire organization with one brush but it's the best argument against cops that I've ever heard. They were just useless.

[Big Magilla]

That Supreme Court decision has already been considered. The decision is due at the end of this term along with the Roe v Wade decision.

It began as an upstate New York case in which the complainants arguing that they should not have to give a reason why they want to carry concealed weapons, that they have a right to do so under the second amendment.

Here's a novel idea. Instead of overturning protections under the 14th amendments (including Roe v Wade), overturn the protections under the second amendment as interpreted by the conservative Supreme Court beginning in 2008.

Michael Moore on MSNBC just now suggested that we make guns the cigarettes of the 21st Century. Just as no one thought they would ever do away with smoking in bars, it can be done, but it has to begin with doing away with the filibuster in the U.S. Senate as do so many other sensible things that aren't going to happen anytime soon.

[Okri]

The Supreme Court is currently considering a case that will likely make it easier to carry firearms in public/prevent communities from prohibiting it.