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They destroyed the Oscars! They destroyed the god-damned Oscars!
John Hughes? Taylor Lautner? So You Think You Can Dance? Friends announcing the nominees?
I thought the worst part of the Oscars this year was the possibility of STAR TREK and THE BLIND SIDE being nominated for Best Picture and AVATAR winning every award. Apparently I was very, very wrong.
John Hughes? Taylor Lautner? So You Think You Can Dance? Friends announcing the nominees?
I thought the worst part of the Oscars this year was the possibility of STAR TREK and THE BLIND SIDE being nominated for Best Picture and AVATAR winning every award. Apparently I was very, very wrong.
"When it comes to the subject of torture, I trust a woman who was married to James Cameron for three years."
-- Amy Poehler in praise of Zero Dark Thirty director Kathryn Bigelow
-- Amy Poehler in praise of Zero Dark Thirty director Kathryn Bigelow
Agree 100% Big. It's much more meaningful when words of praise come from an objective source than a pal, who could be expected to say nice things, a la an AFI Lifetime Achievement Award. And the point of having previous winners speaking to the nominees was a way of welcoming them to a very elite club.Big Magilla wrote:Let's not have the same argument all over again.
If I were an Oscar nominee I would love to have a former winner come out and sing my praises whether I were nominated as an actor or a technician. It would be lovely if they could do that in every category but time constraints would prohibit it. Limiting it to the four acting categories and maybe best director is gratifying to the audience (or most of it) as well because we know these people or at least their public personae and feel a connection to them.
On the other hand if I were an Oscar nominee and a friend who was not a previous winner came out and said how wonderful I was I might not feel that was any more special than having the same person speak at a dinner in my honor. There is nothing about it that says "Oscar". It's just silly.
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Nice opininon, Magilla. I was thinking the same about it.Big Magilla wrote:Let's not have the same argument all over again.
If I were an Oscar nominee I would love to have a former winner come out and sing my praises whether I were nominated as an actor or a technician. It would be lovely if they could do that in every category but time constraints would prohibit it. Limiting it to the four acting categories and maybe best director is gratifying to the audience (or most of it) as well because we know these people or at least their public personae and feel a connection to them.
On the other hand if I were an Oscar nominee and a friend who was not a previous winner came out and said how wonderful I was I might not feel that was any more special than having the same person speak at a dinner in my honor. There is nothing about it that says "Oscar". It's just silly.
It's going to be like ''Here's your Uscar buddy, come up and get it.'' I can predict a lack of professional dignity. Hope it doesn't become a kind of a parody.
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Let's not have the same argument all over again.
If I were an Oscar nominee I would love to have a former winner come out and sing my praises whether I were nominated as an actor or a technician. It would be lovely if they could do that in every category but time constraints would prohibit it. Limiting it to the four acting categories and maybe best director is gratifying to the audience (or most of it) as well because we know these people or at least their public personae and feel a connection to them.
On the other hand if I were an Oscar nominee and a friend who was not a previous winner came out and said how wonderful I was I might not feel that was any more special than having the same person speak at a dinner in my honor. There is nothing about it that says "Oscar". It's just silly.
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If I were an Oscar nominee I would love to have a former winner come out and sing my praises whether I were nominated as an actor or a technician. It would be lovely if they could do that in every category but time constraints would prohibit it. Limiting it to the four acting categories and maybe best director is gratifying to the audience (or most of it) as well because we know these people or at least their public personae and feel a connection to them.
On the other hand if I were an Oscar nominee and a friend who was not a previous winner came out and said how wonderful I was I might not feel that was any more special than having the same person speak at a dinner in my honor. There is nothing about it that says "Oscar". It's just silly.
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No, you weren't right Italiano. There's a huge difference between style and panache; and pointless ratings mongering.
And, has anyone else realized that the ratings are going to be up simply because of Avatar's nomination. So, when the ratings are up, the Academy is suddenly going to think "Hey, Shankman's ideas are working" and will re-hire him even though we all know that it won't be because of the awards, but because of films nominated...so, once again, the Academy will take a negative and think it's a positive and flog the dead whore.
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And, has anyone else realized that the ratings are going to be up simply because of Avatar's nomination. So, when the ratings are up, the Academy is suddenly going to think "Hey, Shankman's ideas are working" and will re-hire him even though we all know that it won't be because of the awards, but because of films nominated...so, once again, the Academy will take a negative and think it's a positive and flog the dead whore.
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"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin
And wasn't last year an insult to all the other categories then?Big Magilla wrote:Having five "friends" of the nominees introduce the five finalists in just two of the four acting categories makes no sense and is an insult to the supporting nominees.
As I said after last year's cerimony, when this board suddenly became a "praising" contest a la They Shoot Horses, Don't They, with applause and empty words in place of dancing (the winner? As Ingrid Bergman said, "It's a tie!", but I won't say between whom), it was just the beginning of a dangerous trend. Now you see that I was right, and you are all free to admit it.
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I'm afraid it's going to me all the So You Think You Can Dance contestants, not just the winners in that opening number.anonymous wrote:Big Magilla wrote:I'm fine with Taylor Lautner presenting. I'm fine with the So You Think Can Think You Can Dance winners being part of the Oscar dance number but these are simply BULLSHIT.
Adam Shankman has Twitter. He's gonna hear from me!
I'm beginning to feel sorry for Meryl Streep. Not only has she waited over a quarter century for her latest Oscar to win for one of her lesser performances, she'll be part of the worst show in Oscar history.
Worst and quite possible, most popular since the 1997 awards when a Cameron film last one a few Oscars.
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Now if only they could get Rob Lowe to sing and dance again with Snow White.Damien wrote:anonymous wrote:Big Magilla wrote:This year's Oscars program already has all the delectable earmarks of being a deliciously hilarious fiasco -- which could only be expected when Shankman and Mechanic signed on. People from "So You Think You Can Dance" will be in the Kodak Theatre that night.
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Sherri Shepherd, co-host of Teh Biew and the woman behind the counter at the school.Damien wrote:And who are they going to get for Gabourey "Gabby" Sidibe -- the woman working the counter at the chicken restaurant Precious rips off? It would be unseemly to get Oprah, as she is one of the film's producers.Big Magilla wrote:Last year's innovation of five previous winners in each acting category introducing the current five nominees was a lovely gesture. Having five "friends" of the nominees introduce the five finalists in just two of the four acting categories makes no sense and is an insult to the supporting nominees.
I'd rather see and hear Shirley MacLaine or Sissy Spacek say something nice about Meryl Streep than see and hear Jack Nicholson say it. And who are they going to get for Carey Mulligan, Shia LeBeuf?
anonymous wrote:Big Magilla wrote:From Hitflix:
- A tribute to John Hughes is currently planned outside of the traditional In Memoriam segment.
Bergman and Antonioni were far more important contributors to cinema and THEY didn't get a separate segment. So this is total bullshit.
I guess Gen X in control means John Hughes is actually an seminal filmmaker. Wonder what Mr. Shankman will have to show regarding Eric Rohmer.
This year's Oscars program already has all the delectable earmarks of being a deliciously hilarious fiasco -- which could only be expected when Shankman and Mechanic signed on. People from "So You Think You Can Dance" will be in the Kodak Theatre that night.
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Big Magilla wrote:From Hitflix:
- A tribute to John Hughes is currently planned outside of the traditional In Memoriam segment.
Bergman and Antonioni were far more important contributors to cinema and THEY didn't get a separate segment. So this is total bullshit.
Also, the "friends" of nominees thing is also bullshit.
I'm fine with Taylor Lautner presenting. I'm fine with the So You Think Can Think You Can Dance winners being part of the Oscar dance number but these are simply BULLSHIT.
Adam Shankman has Twitter. He's gonna hear from me!
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