82nd Oscars - Best Actress

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Postby FilmFan720 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:13 pm

OscarGuy wrote:But how was it the "best year"? It certainly wasn't her best performance? She was better last year in Doubt and better also in The Devil Wears Prada, yet the clamoring wasn't as loud as this year.

Well, some of us think this was the best leading performance Streep has given in a dozen years...probably since The Bridges of Madison County. I will take her Julia Child over Doubt or Devil Wears Prada any day.
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Postby Hustler » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:23 pm

OscarGuy wrote:But how was it the "best year"? It certainly wasn't her best performance? She was better last year in Doubt and better also in The Devil Wears Prada, yet the clamoring wasn't as loud as this year.

You know, I´m not so sure. She was exquisite in that performance. Her voice, her gestures, her awkwardness. I consider her portrayal of Julia Child even better than the other two. It was challenging. She was forced to create a creature so different from her. I applaude that

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Postby Sabin » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:08 pm

But how was it the "best year"?

Because she headlined Julie & Julia and It's Complicated. Well, technically I guess she co-starred but she was a major draw. Both of them brought in $325 million worldwide. Not many actresses do or have brought in that much worldwide. The difference is that Sandra Bullock had a better year with All About Steve, The Blind Side, and The Proposal to the tune of $575 million. Which is kind of unreal.
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Postby Snick's Guy » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:49 pm

OscarGuy wrote:But how was it the "best year"? It certainly wasn't her best performance? She was better last year in Doubt and better also in The Devil Wears Prada, yet the clamoring wasn't as loud as this year. Regardless of competition, the fact that she lost for one of her weaker performances shouldn't be as dispiriting as it has been. She'll win a third eventually, but I'm guessing it will be for dramatic over comedy.

Which brings up another thought. Perhaps the Academy's penchant for recognizing dramatic works over comedy ones is a more significant factor than people are suggesting. How often does comedy win at the Oscars?

Oscar Guy --

You may have something here, as there appears to be a bias against comedic performances, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Many here, myself included, did not think Meryl had a strong chance at winning this year when Julie and Julia was first released. But then, when the critics started citing their favorites at the end of the year, Streep started showing up on list after list, giving legitimatcy and creedence that her's was at least one of the great performances of the year (note: Bullock did not show up on any year end list of critics). So, based on that fact, the groundswell began that this could in fact be Streep's year. I would love to be privy to the final tally, as I suspect the vote was razor-thin close.

The fact remains that amongst Hollywood actors, Streep is the most respected and reverred of the entire bunch, and she will most definately win a third (any maybe fourth) Oscar.

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Postby OscarGuy » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:03 pm

But how was it the "best year"? It certainly wasn't her best performance? She was better last year in Doubt and better also in The Devil Wears Prada, yet the clamoring wasn't as loud as this year. Regardless of competition, the fact that she lost for one of her weaker performances shouldn't be as dispiriting as it has been. She'll win a third eventually, but I'm guessing it will be for dramatic over comedy.

Which brings up another thought. Perhaps the Academy's penchant for recognizing dramatic works over comedy ones is a more significant factor than people are suggesting. How often does comedy win at the Oscars?
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Postby Hustler » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:57 pm

OscarGuy wrote:I don't understand why Streep fans are upset at Sandra for beating her...

Has she not had 15 prior nominations that could be equally prone to wins? I mean last year alone, Doubt would have been the perfect film for her to win her third Oscar, but she didn't. So, I find it a bit unfortunate that Sandra should bear the brunt of the frustration for beating Meryl.

The point is, that Sandra was an inappropriate winner. It was a clearly the best year for Meryl to receive her third trophy. Otherwise, I would have prefered Gabourey to win.

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Postby Okri » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:49 am

Ehh, I love Streep, but wouldn't have voted for her last year. Doubt, as a story/narrative/film just has too many flaws and while she gives a fascinating characterization, it's not one I'd want her to win for.

"Italianio" wrote:Yet on this board, in the past, the Academy's choices haven't been received with such politeness and diplomacy, so why should we make an exception for what is one of the worst choices ever?


No real reason, except I get the feeling you don't obsess over the results like some people do, so your life goes on one way or the other, whereas I know people on the internet that'll be bitching about this like it's a human rights violation.

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Postby OscarGuy » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:34 am

I don't understand why Streep fans are upset at Sandra for beating her...

Has she not had 15 prior nominations that could be equally prone to wins? I mean last year alone, Doubt would have been the perfect film for her to win her third Oscar, but she didn't. So, I find it a bit unfortunate that Sandra should bear the brunt of the frustration for beating Meryl.
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Postby ITALIANO » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:30 am

It's not true that it's supposed to be a popularity contest - there are other prizes for that - and if it were, then we should accept any verdict (the winner will always be someone's favorite actor or director or movie, and popularity will always play a role, or can always be used as an excuse). Yet on this board, in the past, the Academy's choices haven't been received with such politeness and diplomacy, so why should we make an exception for what is one of the worst choices ever?

Also, since the so-called "Streep fans" have been called pathetic here, I think I'd have some right to call "Bullock fans" not the most intelligent people on earth. I won't, but I could, and I probably (personal opinion, of course) wouldn't be too far from the truth.

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Postby Franz Ferdinand » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:56 am

It was a great speech, but that is not what lives on: she will always be an actress, beloved by her peers and fans, who won an Oscar for an inferior movie, and I mirror people's hopes that she sticks to more substantial roles (no more All About Steves please!). She said on the Barbara Walters interview that she still wants to make people laugh - it will just have to be less throwaway I guess.

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Postby anonymous1980 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:51 am

I do believe Sandy's also the first woman in her 40's to win Best Actress since Susan Sarandon.

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Postby bettestreep2008 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:47 am

I thought Sandra delivered a mighty fine performance in Blind Side and agree she gave a beautiful gracious speech - with a touch of cheekiness referrring to the great Streep as a great kisser.

I also thought she was terrific in Miss Congeniality, While you were sleeping, Hope floats, 2 weeks notice, 28 days and even in Crash.

Haven't seen Infamous but people have told me that she was great in it and the film was better than Capote (which I thought was so so).

I also believe if she were to win an Oscar then she should have won it for supporting actress for Speed!

I can see that film a dozen times and I just love her performance in it.

My only gripe is that she won for a very good perfomance whereas Meryl delivered another excellent one.

Sorry for being pissed about this - I just thought the Academy were gonna honour to 60 year old actors (Bridges and Streep) this year not only for their individual performances - both excellent - but also their body of work to date.

I truly love Sandra as an actress - and for her beautiful down to earth personality - but I really feel Merryl was robbed tonight!

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Postby Damien » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:38 am

There's something wonderful about a performer you adore winning recognition, so I hope everyone will just chill a little and let Van Helsing enjoy a vert special time for him.
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Postby Sabin » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:59 am

Great speech. Still not convinced I should see this movie.
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Postby VanHelsing » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:02 am

Thanks aplenty Damien!

And here's wishing to Hawke's first Oscar ASAP! :;):
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