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Okri wrote:Martin Landau?
The same year as Dianne Weist, another true supporting performer.

When Kevin Spacey won, he was still mostly seen as a character actor, and was not a name performer.
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Martin Landau?
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Mister Tee wrote:And, yes, this is the first time it's happened in a supporting category. Also, I believe the first time two winners in the same night closed the deal, which is what happened to actress '06.

This is actually not an insigificant point, I think. In years past, it seems like there were a lot more fluky supporting nominees -- people who you knew would NEVER be back, even some times for films that weren't otherwise on Oscar's radar.

Nowadays, the supporting categories seem mostly filled out by actors in Best Picture nominees (or near-nominees). Plus, the increase of category fraud has merely added to the nomination totals of Oscar magnets like Blanchett and Hoffman instead of giving once-in-a-career opportunities to interesting supporting players.
Apropos this, I was looking at the photo of Penn/Winslet/Cruz, and I thought, those are some pretty big stars -- 10 lead nominations among them. Had Ledger survived to join them, he'd have fit right in as another who'd been nominated lead and would widely be considered a major name.

Who's the last truly supporting performer to win the lower-echelon Oscar? Jennifer Hudson isn't a star, but she was considered a lead by some here. Maybe Chris Cooper or Jim Broadbent were the last true examples -- and even they've played leads on occasion, in Lone Star or Topsy Turvy.
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{Accidentally posted here instead of The Show. Moved post over there.}



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Brad and Angelina are not officially married.
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inky wrote:And I wonder if this is mentioned before - the 1st married couple to be nominated for oscars for different films in the same year ???
Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardner -- 1953

Rex Harrison and Rachel Roberts -- 1963

Are Brad and Angelina married?
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inky wrote:the 1st MTV-style movie (depending on how you define this) that wins best picture

The 1st best picture winner without a single based-in-Hollywood actor in the cast?

And I wonder if this is mentioned before - the 1st married couple to be nominated for oscars for different films in the same year ???
1. Maybe Gladiator?

2. Maybe one of prior winners made in the British film industry?

3. Perhaps Irving Thalberg (Trader Horn) and Norma Shearer (a Free Soul) in 1930/31?
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the 1st MTV-style movie (depending on how you define this) that wins best picture

The 1st best picture winner without a single based-in-Hollywood actor in the cast?

And I wonder if this is mentioned before - the 1st married couple to be nominated for oscars for different films in the same year ???
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The Original BJ wrote:Plus, the increase of category fraud has merely added to the nomination totals of Oscar magnets like Blanchett and Hoffman instead of giving once-in-a-career opportunities to interesting supporting players.
This is very true, however in Hoffman's defense, he fully deserved his supporting nod for Charlie Wilson's War last year.
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Mister Tee wrote:And, yes, this is the first time it's happened in a supporting category. Also, I believe the first time two winners in the same night closed the deal, which is what happened to actress '06.
This is actually not an insigificant point, I think. In years past, it seems like there were a lot more fluky supporting nominees -- people who you knew would NEVER be back, even some times for films that weren't otherwise on Oscar's radar.

Nowadays, the supporting categories seem mostly filled out by actors in Best Picture nominees (or near-nominees). Plus, the increase of category fraud has merely added to the nomination totals of Oscar magnets like Blanchett and Hoffman instead of giving once-in-a-career opportunities to interesting supporting players.
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dws1982 wrote:Did anyone mention that last night turned Best Actress 2006 and Best Supporting Actress 2001 into lineups where all five nominees now hold Oscars? I just noticed this.

Would Best Supporting Actress 2001 be the first such supporting lineup?

I believe it is, but it is worth noting that three of those five won their first or only Oscar for a lead performance!
The number of category years with five winners, once a real rarity, has begun piling up in recent years. But there's still not been a year when all five won in the category in question.

And, yes, this is the first time it's happened in a supporting category. Also, I believe the first time two winners in the same night closed the deal, which is what happened to actress '06.
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dws1982 wrote:Did anyone mention that last night turned Best Actress 2006 and Best Supporting Actress 2001 into lineups where all five nominees now hold Oscars? I just noticed this.

Would Best Supporting Actress 2001 be the first such supporting lineup?
I believe it is, but it is worth noting that three of those five won their first or only Oscar for a lead performance!
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Did anyone mention that last night turned Best Actress 2006 and Best Supporting Actress 2001 into lineups where all five nominees now hold Oscars? I just noticed this.

Would Best Supporting Actress 2001 be the first such supporting lineup?




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I believe this might be the first win for someone portraying a Nazi. For as many Holocaust films honored over the years by the Academy, that's an interesting first.

Sean Penn is the only American to win an acting Oscar in the past two years of winners (1/8).

Third year in a row that Best Actress has gone to a non-American.




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Penelope wrote:Is this the first time an actor who had to drop out of a role (Nicole Kidman) gave the Oscar to the actor who took over for him/her (Kate Winslet)? If you re-watch the presentation, I think Kate said something to Nicole about this, who shook her head.
Marion Cotillard was also reportedly considered after Kidman left and before Winslet became available.
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