PGA Nominees

[jack]

The buzz behind Milk just a mere month ago and even prior makes it seem a shame that it has now delved into possible snub territory...nomination secure, one wonders if a Penn victory will now also go by the wayside

Benjamin Button ain't getting snubbed

The Dark Knight does not seem to be necessary in best picture (and I even rather like the film), but I find Slumdog Millionaire's terrorizing of the awards circuits to be just as erroneous.

That's a good point. If Milk is snubbed (and it will) Sean Penn doesn't feel like a Forest Whitaker style winner. I can still see Rourke winning.

Benjamin Button might not be getting snubbed, but it ain't winning. If it does it'll be A Beautiful Mind all over again. If I had a vote Best Picture would be between Wall-e and Slumdog Millionaire. The Dark Knight was a better film than Slumdog, but even if nominated (and it better be) it won't win.

[Bog]

The buzz behind Milk just a mere month ago and even prior makes it seem a shame that it has now delved into possible snub territory...nomination secure, one wonders if a Penn victory will now also go by the wayside

Benjamin Button ain't getting snubbed

The Dark Knight does not seem to be necessary in best picture (and I even rather like the film), but I find Slumdog Millionaire's terrorizing of the awards circuits to be just as erroneous.



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[Zahveed]

Agreed, though I'm wondering if it'll be The Dark Knight that is snubbed, though a snub for Milk wouldn't be surprising.

The same thing happened last year with Into the Wild vs Atonement.

Maybe both, maybe neither. Maybe Benjamin Button will be snubbed. Who knows.

[Okri]

Agreed, though I'm wondering if it'll be The Dark Knight that is snubbed, though a snub for Milk wouldn't be surprising.

The same thing happened last year with Into the Wild vs Atonement.

[The Original BJ]

I think we should all also be reminded of '06, when Babel, The Departed, Dreamgirls, Little Miss Sunshine, and The Queen were BOTH the PGA nominees AND the DGA nominees...and they were the five films listed on everyone's predictions from here to Kalamazoo.

And what happened? Letters From Iwo Jima, a film with ZERO Guild support, nabs Picture/Director spots at the Oscars, and United 93, a film with ZERO Globe nominations and only a WGA nod, gets a Director spot.

So every time I read Picture/Director predictions that are Benjamin Button, Dark Knight, Frost/Nixon, Milk, and Slumdog alongside Boyle/Fincher/Howard/Nolan/Van Sant...I can only think that that's honestly a lot less likely to happen than it is, precursors be damned.

[jack]

It doesn't matter if it's on film, on paper, or on a computer, there is a director that guides the "direction" of the picture. I think a major factor is that the director of an animated picture can often be seen as more of a lead animator even though there is generally more to what they do, and it just doesn't click with some people that animated pictures have directors. They don't see the actors or the sets, just colorful pictures, and so they attribute it like they would a portrait to a painter. That's my theory.

If by some miracle Andrew Stanton makes it into the final five this year, I think the DGA rule may change. Or at least have an ainimated feature catogory.

[Zahveed]

It doesn't matter if it's on film, on paper, or on a computer, there is a director that guides the "direction" of the picture. I think a major factor is that the director of an animated picture can often be seen as more of a lead animator even though there is generally more to what they do, and it just doesn't click with some people that animated pictures have directors. They don't see the actors or the sets, just colorful pictures, and so they attribute it like they would a portrait to a painter. That's my theory.

[Penelope]

Certainly somebody has to oversee all the components that go into making an animated film, and I presume that would be the director.

[OscarGuy]

The DGA does not have an animated category, likely because they don't consider animated films to be directed since they can be entirely manipulated on the computer. I don't understand it in the least as some animated films have been more cinematically daring and creative than many of their live-action counterparts.

[jack]

agreed. now all we need is the dga to confirm it.

I don't know the DGA can "confirm", as they're EXTREMELY unlikely to nominate an animated feature over a movie featuring humans -- but I still think Wall E's overall beloved-ness could get it a best picture mention.

Which is to say, these five could repeat at DGA and still not be the final Oscar five. (And I'd bet serious money they're unlikely to be the five nominated directors)

To follow up: According to Tom O'Neil, DGA policy specifically precludes an animated film from getting a nomination.

Again, I'm not saying Wall E WILL get a best picture nod. I'm just saying these various trial heats aren't valid tests of its strength.

I thought we all knew this? I knew the PGA had an animated feature catagory so Wall-e would not be nominated here, and don't the DGA have the same?

The BAFTA's may be the best gauge from this point.

[Mister Tee]

I think this will be the Best Picture line-up.

agreed. now all we need is the dga to confirm it.

I don't know the DGA can "confirm", as they're EXTREMELY unlikely to nominate an animated feature over a movie featuring humans -- but I still think Wall E's overall beloved-ness could get it a best picture mention.

Which is to say, these five could repeat at DGA and still not be the final Oscar five. (And I'd bet serious money they're unlikely to be the five nominated directors)

To follow up: According to Tom O'Neil, DGA policy specifically precludes an animated film from getting a nomination.

Again, I'm not saying Wall E WILL get a best picture nod. I'm just saying these various trial heats aren't valid tests of its strength.

[Penelope]

Given that the PGA and Oscar nominees haven't matched since 1994, wouldn't it be safer to bet that one of today's nominees WON'T make it to the Kodak?

i fear MILK is going to be the INTO THE WILD of this year.

Yes, I think Milk or Frost/Nixon will make way for something else; possibly even both.

[Mister Tee]

I think this will be the Best Picture line-up.

agreed. now all we need is the dga to confirm it.

I don't know the DGA can "confirm", as they're EXTREMELY unlikely to nominate an animated feature over a movie featuring humans -- but I still think Wall E's overall beloved-ness could get it a best picture mention.

Which is to say, these five could repeat at DGA and still not be the final Oscar five. (And I'd bet serious money they're unlikely to be the five nominated directors)



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[rolotomasi99]

Given that the PGA and Oscar nominees haven't matched since 1994, wouldn't it be safer to bet that one of today's nominees WON'T make it to the Kodak?

i fear MILK is going to be the INTO THE WILD of this year.

[The Original BJ]

Yes. The animated feature nominees are Bolt, Kung Fu Panda, and WALL-E.

Documentary nominees are Man on Wire, Standard Operating Procedure, and Trouble the Water.

Given that the PGA and Oscar nominees haven't matched since 1994, wouldn't it be safer to bet that one of today's nominees WON'T make it to the Kodak?