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No, no. See, I'm a spread-the-wealth kind of guy. I know actors are too egotistical to do such a thing, but wouldn't it be nice if Streep were nominated against a lineup of previously-nominated-but-never-won nominees and graciously said, "No, I already have two, give to somebody else."
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"...it is the weak who are cruel, and...gentleness is only to be expected from the strong." - Leo Reston
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
FilmFan720 wrote:Hustler wrote:Regarding Streep, I think it´s time for her to win another Oscar.
I think there are many other people who need to win their FIRST Oscar before she takes her third. I have never understood the turning of her into some sort of Acting God...if anyone deserves a third Oscar, it is Hilary Swank, right Pen?
I don't really think there is some huge rush to honor Streep with a third Oscar. But there is something about the sheer number of nominations she's accrued since her last win that has people thinking it should translate into a third trophy. Also, with such actresses as Katherine Hepburn, Ingrid Bergman, Hilary Swank, Jane Fonda, Glenda Jackson, et al. having two or more Best Actress Oscars, it seems only fitting that Meryl Streep, considered an acting legend at this point, should be in that group as well.
But yes, agreed. There are tons of actors who should be honored with their first. If Streep knocks it out of the ballpark this year with Doubt and Kate Winslet shines in both Revolutionary Road and The Reader, then it looks like there might be a true showdown. Kate could be double-nommed in lead (Revolutionary Road) and support (The Reader), allowing the Academy to honor both of them. Who knows...
As for Hilary's third...Amelia Earheart here we come!
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Blasphemer! Sacrilege! Heathen!FilmFan720 wrote:Hustler wrote:Regarding Streep, I think it´s time for her to win another Oscar.
I think there are many other people who need to win their FIRST Oscar before she takes her third. I have never understood the turning of her into some sort of Acting God...if anyone deserves a third Oscar, it is Hilary Swank, right Pen?
But, yeah, I can think of several actress that need to win their first Oscar before Streep gets her third--aside from The Goddess, how about Julianne Moore, Glenn Close, Laura Linney, Emily Watson...and how about some who haven't yet been nominated, such as Isabelle Huppert or Anna Faris.
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I think there are many other people who need to win their FIRST Oscar before she takes her third. I have never understood the turning of her into some sort of Acting God...if anyone deserves a third Oscar, it is Hilary Swank, right Pen?Hustler wrote:Regarding Streep, I think it´s time for her to win another Oscar.
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Actually, I agree with this; in many ways, her Revolutionary Road character is very similar to her Little Children character. However, her character in The Reader is completely different and unique, something totally new for her.Sabin wrote:Kate Winslet has to do something new. Right now, she's just too damn dependable. I think 'Eternal Sunshine' was her breath-of-fresh air perf. I could certainly be wrong and 'Revolutionary Road' could push her over the top especially considering she's being director by her hubby.
"...it is the weak who are cruel, and...gentleness is only to be expected from the strong." - Leo Reston
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
Kate Winslet has to do something new. Right now, she's just too damn dependable. I think 'Eternal Sunshine' was her breath-of-fresh air perf. I could certainly be wrong and 'Revolutionary Road' could push her over the top especially considering she's being director by her hubby.
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I don't think so. La Streep still has 2 Oscars to keep her company, La Winslet has 0...plus, she's pretty much recognized as one of the finest actresses of her generation--if not THE finest. She's definitely more owed than Streep.Big Magilla wrote:On the other hand here is nothing that says Kate Winslet will win either just because she will be getting her sixth nomination - if Paul Newman, Geraldine Page and Al Pacino had to wait for number eight and eight still wasn't good enough for Peter O'Toole then six is nothing, besides which Meryl Streep will getting her 15th nomination, her 11th since her second win and will likely be seen as the more "owed".
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"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
"Cruelty might be very human, and it might be cultural, but it's not acceptable." - Jodie Foster
Flipp, I believe you've also read The Reader; personally, I was a bit underwhelmed by Revolutionary Road (the book), though I agree that Winslet's character has a lot to offer the actress...but that the character in The Reader has even more to offer--it's soooo much more complex. Do we know yet if The Reader is still scheduled for release this year?flipp525 wrote:jack wrote:If Winslet wins this year, I hope DiCaprio wins to.
I've read the book and Winslet's character is very well-written. There is potential for a lot of material for her to sink her teeth into.
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I hadn't liked Angelina in anything since Gia either until I saw A Mighty Heart, but there is no way she is going to win another Oscar anytime soon. A nomination maybe, but not a win.
On the other hand here is nothing that says Kate Winslet will win either just because she will be getting her sixth nomination - if Paul Newman, Geraldine Page and Al Pacino had to wait for number eight and eight still wasn't good enough for Peter O'Toole then six is nothing, besides which Meryl Streep will getting her 15th nomination, her 11th since her second win and will likely be seen as the more "owed".
Ah, if only they gave these things out strictly on the basis of performance....
On the other hand here is nothing that says Kate Winslet will win either just because she will be getting her sixth nomination - if Paul Newman, Geraldine Page and Al Pacino had to wait for number eight and eight still wasn't good enough for Peter O'Toole then six is nothing, besides which Meryl Streep will getting her 15th nomination, her 11th since her second win and will likely be seen as the more "owed".
Ah, if only they gave these things out strictly on the basis of performance....
I've read the book and Winslet's character is very well-written. There is potential for a lot of material for her to sink her teeth into.jack wrote:If Winslet wins this year, I hope DiCaprio wins to.
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I haven't liked Angelina Jolie on-screen in anything since 'Gia' and so I didn't even bother to check out 'A Mighty Heart' even though I've heard she's not bad in it. I'm the one who thinks that A) 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind' is the best movie of the decade, and B) if 'Million Dollar Baby' hadn't come out, then Imelda Staunton would've won the Globe and both she and Bening would've lost to Winslet at the Screen Actor's Guild, leading a clear path for Kate Winslet to win. Nothing against Hilary Swank but that was a moment and I wanted to have happen at the Kodak.
That being said, 'Million Dollar Baby' is an unassuming film whose Oscar wins probably tarnished its legacy more than bolstered it. It's a lovely movie with three lovely performances. Clint Eastwood's "Oscar-whoring" is resultant of apex craftsmanship impeccably released and pushed, even though 'Gran Torino' looks painful.
Becoming increasingly convinced as it heads to more and more festivals that 'Happy-Go-Lucky' cannot be dismissed.
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That being said, 'Million Dollar Baby' is an unassuming film whose Oscar wins probably tarnished its legacy more than bolstered it. It's a lovely movie with three lovely performances. Clint Eastwood's "Oscar-whoring" is resultant of apex craftsmanship impeccably released and pushed, even though 'Gran Torino' looks painful.
Becoming increasingly convinced as it heads to more and more festivals that 'Happy-Go-Lucky' cannot be dismissed.
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