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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:41 pm
by dreaMaker
Well, i liked Cloverfield, Mamma Mia, Sex n the City, Tropic Thunder; even Rocknrolla and Twilight weren't that bad.
I didn't see (but want to) Australia and Pineapple Express.
Save me, oh Lord.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:59 pm
by criddic3
jack wrote:I voted for Pineapple Express. Not because it's a guilty pleasure, but because I thought it was the best movie on the list, and thought it was one of the funniest movies I saw last year.
I agree with most of you about the guilty pleasure thing. I for one don't care if other's didn't like a movie that I enjoyed. A movie that I could watch again and again is The Day After Tomorrow. I know it's a load of nonsence, but I still enjoy it. For two hours I can sit back and escape. That's what movies are for. Is it wrong that I enjoy The Day After Tomorrow? Who cares...
And rolo I kinda understand what you're getting at, but tell me if a film is well made, does that make it a better film in your book? I didn't like Ben Button either. I thought it was too long and boring, and I frankly didn't care how well made it was.
The Day After Tomorrow is actually a pretty decent movie. I would consider a guilty pleasure to be something like Mars Attacks!, where the fun of watching it derives almost solely from those crazy little aliens running around killing everybody.
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:25 am
by Reza
What a lousy year....no guilty pleasures in sight.
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:51 am
by rolotomasi99
abcinyvr wrote:Of these I am proud to say that I have only seen RocknRolla and my guilty pleasure was JCVD.
you know, i was impressed with ROCKNROLLA. i have never found guy ritchie movies to be enjoyable, even on the guilty pleasure level. the plots are always stupid and the acting is atrocious. the editing and cinematography, which people usually love about ritchie films, are just annoying and give me a headache.
however, ROCKNROLLA was, dare i say it, acutally pretty good. obviously it is still in the guilty pleasure arena, but the acting, editing, cinematography, and story were all better than any guy ritchie movie has the right to be. i even enjoyed the little gay inclusive part of the movie. i hope glaad remembers ROCKNROLLA when they hand out nominations for their awards -- though breaking up with madonna may have prejudiced some of the gays against him.
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:15 am
by abcinyvr
Of these I am proud to say that I have only seen RocknRolla and my guilty pleasure was JCVD.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:52 am
by rolotomasi99
jack wrote:And rolo I kinda understand what you're getting at, but tell me if a film is well made, does that make it a better film in your book? I didn't like Ben Button either. I thought it was too long and boring, and I frankly didn't care how well made it was.
yeah, i do my best to be objective when judging a film. i appreciate a movie that takes the time to be well put together. however, that does not guarantee i will enjoy it.
GONE WITH THE WIND, OUT OF AFRICA, THE LAST EMPEROR, DANCES WITH WOLVES, BRAVEHEART, et al are films i can appreciate and admire from a strictly cinematic viewpoint, but i would still rather watch spartan soldiers fight the persian army in 300. what i enjoy and what is well made often overlap, but not always. those are the guilty pleasures.
nothing annoys me more than when people will be talking about their favorite movie and they will keep calling it the best movie. you can like whatever you want to like, but at least have the decency to not confusing your entertainment with the quality of the film. i would do the same with books. i may love the harry potter series, but i would never say they are the best books written.
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:20 am
by jack
I voted for Pineapple Express. Not because it's a guilty pleasure, but because I thought it was the best movie on the list, and thought it was one of the funniest movies I saw last year.
I agree with most of you about the guilty pleasure thing. I for one don't care if other's didn't like a movie that I enjoyed. A movie that I could watch again and again is The Day After Tomorrow. I know it's a load of nonsence, but I still enjoy it. For two hours I can sit back and escape. That's what movies are for. Is it wrong that I enjoy The Day After Tomorrow? Who cares...
And rolo I kinda understand what you're getting at, but tell me if a film is well made, does that make it a better film in your book? I didn't like Ben Button either. I thought it was too long and boring, and I frankly didn't care how well made it was.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:42 pm
by Zahveed
I'm waiting for the Most Overrated Favorite Guilty Pleasure of 2008 thread. I'd like to vote for Mamma Mia(!).
Note: I admit, I haven't seen it though.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:21 pm
by Damien
OscarGuy wrote:That's the problem with the term Guilty Pleasures. I think it refers more to what other people feel about the film than what you yourself feel. For instance, I love The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, but a lot of people don't like it. It would be considered guilty because others don't like it.
But, if the definition truly is "I feel guilty about liking this", then I know I would never have a Guilty Pleasure because I don't feel guilty about liking the movies I like. It's my opinion and people can live with it even if they don't like it.
A Guilty Pleasure is a movie which you realize in every reasonable objective sense is bad, but you have great affection for it anyway. It;s basically akin to camp. For me The Bad Seed, The Love Machine, The Miracle Of The Bells and the recently-discussed The Oscar are Guilty Pleasures of the highest order.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:02 pm
by MovieWes
There's some movies that I know I should hate, like Old School, Road Trip, or the Harold and Kumar movies, for instance, but still enjoy nonetheless.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:24 pm
by rolotomasi99
Eric wrote:Honestly, I'm getting past the point of guilty pleasures because I still attempt (and, yes, often fail) to differentiate between affection and appraisal. Plus, I think there's much value to parse from the cinema of ill repute.
bad movies help me appreciate good movies. 
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:53 pm
by Eric
Honestly, I'm getting past the point of guilty pleasures because I still attempt (and, yes, often fail) to differentiate between affection and appraisal. Plus, I think there's much value to parse from the cinema of ill repute.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:46 pm
by rolotomasi99
OscarGuy wrote:That's the problem with the term Guilty Pleasures. I think it refers more to what other people feel about the film than what you yourself feel. For instance, I love The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, but a lot of people don't like it. It would be considered guilty because others don't like it.
But, if the definition truly is "I feel guilty about liking this", then I know I would never have a Guilty Pleasure because I don't feel guilty about liking the movies I like. It's my opinion and people can live with it even if they don't like it.
for me the guilty part comes from the fact that i think movies should be well made -- intelligent story; well acted, written, and directed; the way it is shot should not only be competent but cinematically interesting. these must be hard standards to meet because every year out of the more than 200 films made and released in the u.s., only about 10% seem to accomplish being well made.
however, these films i listed (an incomplete list since i was allowed only ten options) just seemed like movies none of us would really consider award worthy yet were enjoyed by some of us. like oscarguy said, your opinion is your opinion, but i like to be objective in my opinion of cinema. i may not enjoy a movie like THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON, but i can still point out how well made it is.
in that same way, i can say i loved TWILIGHT while still admitting it was not the most well made film out there (though also not poorly made). that is why it is guilty to me. i still think movies should strive to be as well made as possible, but every so often i fall in love with a movie that just does not meet the standard i hold movies to in general.
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:12 pm
by OscarGuy
That's the problem with the term Guilty Pleasures. I think it refers more to what other people feel about the film than what you yourself feel. For instance, I love The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, but a lot of people don't like it. It would be considered guilty because others don't like it.
But, if the definition truly is "I feel guilty about liking this", then I know I would never have a Guilty Pleasure because I don't feel guilty about liking the movies I like. It's my opinion and people can live with it even if they don't like it.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:08 pm
by Eric
Doesn't sound like you're deriving much "guilt" in taking pleasure from it, Pen.