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OscarGuy wrote:Sorry, Greg, not an option. I listen to my music on my computer at home and also on my phone. Their concerns over piracy really aren't as big as they play them out to be. Who hasn't loaned a CD to a friend to burn a copy? It's common practice.
Or to go back further, recorded a song on tape instead of buying the single? Bootlegs have existed for decades. A lot of the popular bands that rally against pirating are the same who got their start because fans were passing the music around.
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Sorry, Greg, not an option. I listen to my music on my computer at home and also on my phone. Their concerns over piracy really aren't as big as they play them out to be. Who hasn't loaned a CD to a friend to burn a copy? It's common practice.
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That could work.
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Another sloution that could work for music is that you could pay to download a song on, say, your iPhone and listen to it as many times as you wish; but, the song would scramble whenever you would try to send it from your iPhone to anywhere else.
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For movies, I don't see that being a problem. They already have On-Demand and Pay-Per-View services, as well as Netflix, but I still don't agree with the music bit. I like having it readily available.
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That would not be a problem for movies. For songs, you could download a song at something like 10 cents for 10 hearings before the song scrambles.
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Greg wrote:
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Greg wrote:Wouldn't the best way to prevent illelgal downloading of movies and music be for the companies releasing the material to release them only on a pay-to-watch/listen basis whereby you could only pay to download the material on the Internet and watch it/listen to it at that time, but not download a copy that you could distribute?
This is way too restrictive.
How so?
First off, if you wanted to listen to it in your car or on your mp3 player while exercising you would be screwed. Then we're talking about draining money out of customer's pockets if there's a song they wanted to listen to 100 times over.
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Dien wrote:
Greg wrote:Wouldn't the best way to prevent illelgal downloading of movies and music be for the companies releasing the material to release them only on a pay-to-watch/listen basis whereby you could only pay to download the material on the Internet and watch it/listen to it at that time, but not download a copy that you could distribute?
This is way too restrictive.
How so?
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Greg wrote:Wouldn't the best way to prevent illelgal downloading of movies and music be for the companies releasing the material to release them only on a pay-to-watch/listen basis whereby you could only pay to download the material on the Internet and watch it/listen to it at that time, but not download a copy that you could distribute?
This is way too restrictive.
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Wouldn't the best way to prevent illelgal downloading of movies and music be for the companies releasing the material to release them only on a pay-to-watch/listen basis whereby you could only pay to download the material on the Internet and watch it/listen to it at that time, but not download a copy that you could distribute?
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Big Magilla wrote:Attorney General Eric Holder has asked Americans to turn in neighbors they suspect of downloading music and movies illegally or ordering pharamaceuticals from Candian pharmacies.

I'm all for protectign intellectual property and bringing down the cost of drusg for everyone, but how is this different from the Nazis asking neighbors to report Jews in hiding? This is more insidious than anything the Nixon or Gerog W. regimes did.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/1 ... ip-terror/
Eric Holder has to go! It's one thing to hear "If you see something say something" at the train station, where a suspicious bag could contain a bomb, but this is a bad idea. Prosecute those who provide bootlegs on street corners or who are caught with recording equipment in theaters, etc. But "turn in your neighbors" is crazy.
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1: "Hey, neighbor!"

2: "...Hey, Bill... what's up?"

1: "Oh, nothing. Just seeing what you were up to. Working on your car, I see."

2: "...Yea."

1: "Kickin' jams you got playing. Is this a new CD?"

2: "It's my iPod..."

1: "Cool, cool. Where'd you get the music?"

2: "Go away, Bill."
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Oh no. My neighbor's a Communist! Better blacklist them!
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Attorney General Eric Holder has asked Americans to turn in neighbors they suspect of downloading music and movies illegally or ordering pharamaceuticals from Candian pharmacies.

I'm all for protectign intellectual property and bringing down the cost of drusg for everyone, but how is this different from the Nazis asking neighbors to report Jews in hiding? This is more insidious than anything the Nixon or Gerog W. regimes did.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/1 ... ip-terror/
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