New Developments III

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Big Magilla wrote:Neal Katyal and Sam Koppelman make a good argument for impeaching Trump again and this time finding him guilty even though he will have left office by the time it is done. It would be to keep him from running again in 2024.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/opin ... e=Homepage
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Neal Katyal and Sam Koppelman make a good argument for impeaching Trump again and this time finding him guilty even though he will have left office by the time it is done. It would be to keep him from running again in 2024.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/opin ... e=Homepage
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I just spent some time dealing with one of those click-bait stories on Roy Rogers and the Rogers Museum which moved to Branson, MO after the deaths of Rogers and Dale Evans and was closed at the end of 2009, after which the stuffed remains of his horse Trigger were sold to a smalltime TV station. It got me thinking that maybe the next big thing in taxidermy could be the stuffed remains of Trump on display at the Trump Museum in Mar-a-logo. When future generations lose interest, maybe his remains, too, could be sold to a small TV station that still gives a damn.
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Why isn't there more outrage over things like this?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics ... index.html
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What is shocking to me is not the phone call itself, but, my not being at all surprised that it happened.
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Someone needs to find that clip from Downfall and sync up the audio of the phone call over it.
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Mister Tee wrote:Anyone who's not watching cable news right now should tune in for what is, even by Trump era standards, a Holy Shit moment.

And spare me your "This won't change Republican minds" takes. I'm just talking about the reality that the president is on tape, sounding like a mob boss, telling a secretary of state to "find" enough votes to reverse an election. The Ukraine call we only knew about through third-party testimony; this is direct evidence. Appalling.
I assume that Trump will be prosecuted after January 20th for this slam-dunk case of extortion when he can no longer hide behind his office.
And let's hope that Biden won't let him off the hook in some foolishly naive attempt at reconciliation. You don't negotiate with terrorists and arsonists.
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Remarkable stuff.

In other news:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/328106/pub ... yndication

Trump joins Jimmy Carter as defeated incumbents whose approval ratings fell after failing to win reelection. To be fair, it's small company (just George H.W. Bush) but Ford saw his approval rise. Anyway: can't imagine why. He's been so charming as of late.
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Anyone who's not watching cable news right now should tune in for what is, even by Trump era standards, a Holy Shit moment.

And spare me your "This won't change Republican minds" takes. I'm just talking about the reality that the president is on tape, sounding like a mob boss, telling a secretary of state to "find" enough votes to reverse an election. The Ukraine call we only knew about through third-party testimony; this is direct evidence. Appalling.
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Here is sort of a companion to the recent amazing scientific/technical advances that led to the covid vaccines, that should really put a smile on your faces. This is a video from Boston Dynamics, which is a company that spun off from research done at MIT, which shows robots they built that are spectacularly getting down and dancing to "Do You Love Me (Mashed Potato)":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3KWM1kuAw
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danfrank wrote
This is perhaps closer to Nazi territory than anything else we’ve seen from this administration, which is saying a lot. Horrifying.
Early this week, Gen. Frank McKenzie told NBC News that intel still hasn't established Russia paid Taliban 'bounties' to kill U.S. troops. I was pretty horrified by that story when I heard about it. Gen. McKenzie saying this doesn't mean that it didn't happen... but I try to approach these unverified stories with a little skepticism.

But this is absolutely horrifying. Horrifying.
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This is perhaps closer to Nazi territory than anything else we’ve seen from this administration, which is saying a lot. Horrifying.
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HOLY SHIT.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics ... index.html

Whistleblower alleges high rate of hysterectomies and medical neglect at ICE facility
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Washington (CNN)A whistleblower who previously worked at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Georgia detailed a high rate of hysterectomies and alleged medical neglect in a complaint filed to the Department of Homeland Security inspector general Monday.

Dawn Wooten, a licensed practical nurse employed by the center who's represented by the Government Accountability Project and Project South, stated in a complaint that while some women may have required a hysterectomy, "everybody's uterus cannot be that bad."

The Government Accountability Project provides representation for whistleblowers and Project South is a social justice organization. The complaint is also signed by several immigrant advocacy organizations: Georgia Detention Watch, Georgia Latino Alliance for Human Rights and South Georgia Immigrant Support Network.

"Everybody he sees has a hysterectomy—just about everybody. He's even taken out the wrong ovary on a young lady [detained immigrant woman]. She was supposed to get her left ovary removed because it had a cyst on the left ovary; he took out the right one. She was upset. She had to go back to take out the left and she wound up with a total hysterectomy," Wooten explains in the complaint.

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"She still wanted children—so she has to go back home now and tell her husband that she can't bear kids... she said she was not all the way out under anesthesia and heard him [doctor] tell the nurse that he took the wrong ovary," she continued.

The complaint doesn't disclose the name of the gynecologist or the number of women allegedly coerced into receiving the procedure, nor when it occurred. ICE said it doesn't comment on matters presented to the inspector general.

"ICE takes all allegations seriously and defers to the (Office of the Inspector General) regarding any potential investigation and/or results. That said, in general, anonymous, unproven allegations, made without any fact-checkable specifics, should be treated with the appropriate skepticism they deserve," the agency said.

A detained immigrant told Project South, a social justice organization, that she had spoken to five different women at Irwin County Detention Center between October and December 2019 who had a hysterectomy.

"When I met all these women who had had surgeries, I thought this was like an experimental concentration camp. It was like they're experimenting with our bodies," said the immigrant, whose name was not disclosed by the organization.

LaSalle Corrections, which operates the facility, did not immediately respond to CNN's request for comment.
Wooten also describes speaking with detained women who didn't fully understand why they had the medical procedure.

"These immigrant women, I don't think they really, totally, all the way understand this is what's going to happen depending on who explains it to them," Wooten said.

Wooten will deliver remarks alongside representatives from Project South, Georgia Latino Alliance for Human Rights, South Georgia Immigrant Support Network, and Georgia Detention Watch at a noon press conference in Georgia.
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Pew Survey

Only posting it because I was actually called to participate. Numbers are unsurprising.
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This is pretty cool.

https://futurism.com/neoscope/fauci-war ... ndemic-era

FAUCI WARNS THAT EARTH HAS ENTERED A “PANDEMIC ERA”

"THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES WHERE DISEASE EMERGENCES REFLECT OUR INCREASING INABILITY TO LIVE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE."

BY DAN ROBITZSKI / SEPTEMBER 04 2020

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the White House’s top coronavirus advisor, warns that humanity is now living in a “pandemic era.”

At this point, nearly half a year after the COVID-19 pandemic brought the U.S. to its knees, that may sound obvious. But as The Washington Post reports, Fauci is talking about something greater than just the current pandemic. Rather, he believes that human activity has become a major contributor to the emergence of new deadly diseases.

“COVID-19, recognized in late 2019, is but the latest example of an unexpected, novel, and devastating pandemic disease,” Fauci, along with his colleague Dr. David Morens, wrote in research published last month in the prestigious journal CELL. “One can conclude from this recent experience that we have entered a pandemic era. The causes of this new and dangerous situation are multifaceted, complex, and deserving of serious examination.”

Throughout the paper, Fauci and Morens point out numerous dangerous disease outbreaks that began as a downstream effect of industrialization or other ways that human civilization impacted nature. For instance, there’s the Nipah virus outbreak from around the turn of the 21st century that began because humanity burned down forests to make room for agriculture, which displaced infected bats closer to populated areas.

“There are many examples where disease emergences reflect our increasing inability to live in harmony with nature,” Fauci and Morens write.

In order to reverse course, the duo warns that we need to rethink many aspects of our society, from deforestation to living in crowded cities to unsanitary animal farming.

“Living in greater harmony with nature will require changes in human behavior as well as other radical changes that may take decades to achieve: rebuilding the infrastructures of human existence, from cities to homes to workplaces, to water and sewer systems, to recreational and gatherings venues,” Fauci and Morens write.
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