Decision 2016

[Okri]

I stole it from twitter, so I can't claim credit.

[Greg]

"The Godfather Part III Surges To Third Among All Godfather Movies, Will Soon Be The Best"
--Marco Rubio, movie reviewer

Actually, I can imagine Trump looks close to what Brando's Corleone would have looked like with a comb over.

[Sabin]

Okri wrote
"The Godfather Part III Surges To Third Among All Godfather Movies, Will Soon Be The Best"
--Marco Rubio, movie reviewer

Yeah, I'm stealing this too.

[Sabin]

First of all, I think you're massively reducing what Cornel West is actually saying about the President. Secondly, without having spoken to Cornel West personally about President Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you he doesn't hate President Obama. He's disappointed with President Obama, just as he would be with any President who exists in the shades of grey bubble of United States politics that doesn't live up to his liberal ideals. Considering that Bernie Sanders is as close to finding that candidate as he ever is in his lifetime, it's not remotely surprising that he would endorse him.

[taki15]

Cornell West is not a hater, period. He (sincerely, I believe) continues to refer to "brother Obama," and gives him credit where it's due. He has legitimately criticized Obama from the left, and would be a hypocrite to pretend that just because he's the first black president he can do no wrong. Voices like West's and Sanders' are incredibly important in keeping the Democratic party from being completely sucked into the Wall Street/Military Industrial Complex vortex. Voices like theirs have moved Obama more to the left as his presidency has progressed, and are clearly pulling Clinton to the left during this campaign. Bravo for them! Whether they appreciate it or not, this leftward pull does great service to the African American community, among others.

He called Obama a Rockefeller Republican in disguise, a "counterfeit progressive" and "the first niggerized President".
Maybe that's me but I don't think these characterizations can be construed any way as legitimate criticism.

[danfrank]

[quote= Cornell West (another noted Obama-hater).[/quote]

Cornell West is not a hater, period. He (sincerely, I believe) continues to refer to "brother Obama," and gives him credit where it's due. He has legitimately criticized Obama from the left, and would be a hypocrite to pretend that just because he's the first black president he can do no wrong. Voices like West's and Sanders' are incredibly important in keeping the Democratic party from being completely sucked into the Wall Street/Military Industrial Complex vortex. Voices like theirs have moved Obama more to the left as his presidency has progressed, and are clearly pulling Clinton to the left during this campaign. Bravo for them! Whether they appreciate it or not, this leftward pull does great service to the African American community, among others.

[flipp525]

"The Godfather Part III Surges To Third Among All Godfather Movies, Will Soon Be The Best"
--Marco Rubio, movie reviewer

This is brilliant. I might have to steal it.

[taki15]

OscarGuy wrote
When black leaders of the Civil Rights movement support your opponent, getting a celebrity to try and counteract that seems a tad pathetic.

When black leaders of the civil rights movement support your opponent, you should make an effort to tell the voters that you got arrested at a civil rights protest back in 1963. Look, nobody owes Bernie Sanders a thing, he's probably knows he's not going to win South Carolina, but giving up when you've exceeded every possible expectation for your career isn't desperate and pathetic.

It's pretty hard to win over black voters when back in 2012 you talked about primarying the first black president and later you characterized him "weak" and a "disappointment". I think these facts weigh a bit more on African-American's minds than his endorsement by Spike Lee and Cornell West (another noted Obama-hater).

[OscarGuy]

I'm sorry, Sabin, but this "movement" of his hasn't exactly produced the outcome he (or his fans) wanted. All season, everyone has been talking about how he'll out perform Obama and bring more young voters to the table. However, voter turnout in the Democratic Primary/Caucus states so far has been less than in 2008 when Obama's "movement" broke all expectations. He actually energized a populace. While there is evidence Bernie is doing similar things, by every important metric, he's underperforming.

After Nevada, he's acknowledged he did worse than even he expected, his margin of loss was worse than polls suggested (never trust polls), so instead of trying to keep the same message, he's decided to go negative. Of course, his negative isn't even remotely as bad as the Republican have been, but it does show signs of desperation.

[Sabin]

In other news...

[Sabin]

OscarGuy wrote
When black leaders of the Civil Rights movement support your opponent, getting a celebrity to try and counteract that seems a tad pathetic.

When black leaders of the civil rights movement support your opponent, you should make an effort to tell the voters that you got arrested at a civil rights protest back in 1963. Look, nobody owes Bernie Sanders a thing, he's probably knows he's not going to win South Carolina, but giving up when you've exceeded every possible expectation for your career isn't desperate and pathetic.

[Okri]

"The Godfather Part III Surges To Third Among All Godfather Movies, Will Soon Be The Best"
--Marco Rubio, movie reviewer

[OscarGuy]

Bernie has a problem with black voters. He's desperate to claim as many as he possibly can, so he thinks trotting out black celebrities will help with that. When black leaders of the Civil Rights movement support your opponent, getting a celebrity to try and counteract that seems a tad pathetic. I like Bernie, but he has to see the writing on the wall by now (that many of us saw months ago, but he and his supporters for some reason couldn't).

[Sonic Youth]

Nah, it's not desperate. They're just playing the game until time runs out. It's not like Bernie's going to last until NY, so why not let Spike record the message now?

[flipp525]

Spike Lee backs Bernie Sanders ahead of primary: 'Wake up, South Carolina!':

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... ary-voters

How desperate. He doesn't have a chance in hell of taking SC.