Decision 2016

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Re: Decision 2016

Postby OscarGuy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:25 pm

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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Big Magilla » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:01 pm

Responded to in the Life Under Trump thread.

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Re: Decision 2016

Postby ITALIANO » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:41 pm

I really feel as if I'm watching (or living in) a bad American movie... And I wonder how can a supposedly "civilized" country take such decisions without - I don't know - an institution which can prevent the President from making some obviously absurd, anti-democratic choices. Is the President so free? In Italy all this would be unthinkable.

And the American people? All silent. (Except for a few who will be soon considered communists).

Ah, how right I was. How I saw through this long, long ago. And how sad that even today there's almost no self-criticism - even from those on this board who think of themselves as "open-minded" and "intellectual"...

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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Okri » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:28 pm

criddic3 wrote:I am kind of glad I have been steering clear of this thread for a while. It assumes a lot to say that Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents before he has even begun his first full day in office. Sure it could happen but it really is a giant leap to assume it will. For example, Chester A. Arthur. Once deemed untrustworthy and part of a corrupt political machine, Arthur became president upon the assassination of James A. Garfield. Shocking his long-time critics, he led a massive effort to reform civil service. This led to praise such as this from Journalist and politician Alexander McClure "No man ever entered the Presidency so profoundly and widely distrusted as Chester Alan Arthur, and no one ever retired ... more generally respected, alike by political friend and foe."

So you never know. I am wary like many of you are (remember I didn't vote for him) but I want to give him a chance to prove me wrong.


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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Okri » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:12 am

What Sonic said, except even more for those of us who aren't American citizens.

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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Sonic Youth » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:30 am

criddic3 wrote:I am kind of glad I have been steering clear of this thread for a while. It assumes a lot to say that Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents before he has even begun his first full day in office. Sure it could happen but it really is a giant leap to assume it will. For example, Chester A. Arthur. Once deemed untrustworthy and part of a corrupt political machine, Arthur became president upon the assassination of James A. Garfield. Shocking his long-time critics, he led a massive effort to reform civil service. This led to praise such as this from Journalist and politician Alexander McClure "No man ever entered the Presidency so profoundly and widely distrusted as Chester Alan Arthur, and no one ever retired ... more generally respected, alike by political friend and foe."

So you never know. I am wary like many of you are (remember I didn't vote for him) but I want to give him a chance to prove me wrong.


Whether we give him a chance or not, of what relevance is that to anything? What's going to happen next is going to happen, no matter what we say on the UAADB. We're not going to affect whatever comes next. He has his chance anyway, by default. We can still have our opinions and state our worries. We can even make bold predictions. Saying "you haven't given him a chance" is like complaining someone didn't write "IMO" in a movie review.
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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Big Magilla » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:35 am

Trump is a reformer, but not in a good way.

If he wants to win people over, he should start with firing his advisors and hiring competent people to run the White House. He can start with telling Kellyanne Conway to take her "alternative facts" and fly off on her broomstick along with whoever came up with that idiotic phrase.

On the other hand, God bless whoever the woman was that came up with "crowd size is the new penis size".

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Re: Decision 2016

Postby criddic3 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:40 am

I am kind of glad I have been steering clear of this thread for a while. It assumes a lot to say that Trump will go down as one of the worst presidents before he has even begun his first full day in office. Sure it could happen but it really is a giant leap to assume it will. For example, Chester A. Arthur. Once deemed untrustworthy and part of a corrupt political machine, Arthur became president upon the assassination of James A. Garfield. Shocking his long-time critics, he led a massive effort to reform civil service. This led to praise such as this from Journalist and politician Alexander McClure "No man ever entered the Presidency so profoundly and widely distrusted as Chester Alan Arthur, and no one ever retired ... more generally respected, alike by political friend and foe."

So you never know. I am wary like many of you are (remember I didn't vote for him) but I want to give him a chance to prove me wrong.
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Re: Decision 2016

Postby OscarGuy » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:34 pm

Apart from it being a fetish for him, Trump seems like the kind of guy who would rather give Golden Showers than receive them.
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Re: Decision 2016

Postby flipp525 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:48 am

Sabin wrote:
flipp525 wrote
Just resurrecting this post as now, it appears, I might've been right. (Although I never imagined golden showers.)

But what comes of it? Nothing. Just a somehow crazier President Trump.

Well, I mean, nothing. Nothing ever comes of anything he says or does. But I had to bring it out because criddic immediately chided me for daring to suggest that something sexual come to light as Russian blackmail and that's exactly what happened days later (unverified or not, I certainly believe it). I wasn't "hoping for the worst" (which is how he described my post). I was predicting (and predicting correctly, I might add).
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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Sonic Youth » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:19 am

Sabin wrote:
flipp525 wrote
Just resurrecting this post as now, it appears, I might've been right. (Although I never imagined golden showers.)

But what comes of it? Nothing. Just a somehow crazier President Trump.

Question for the elders on this board. Has there ever been a worse presidential transition?


Well, in 1860 nearly all the Southern states seceded from the Union immediately after Lincoln's election. So, this year is a close second.
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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Sabin » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:24 am

flipp525 wrote
Just resurrecting this post as now, it appears, I might've been right. (Although I never imagined golden showers.)

But what comes of it? Nothing. Just a somehow crazier President Trump.

Question for the elders on this board. Has there ever been a worse presidential transition?
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Re: Decision 2016

Postby flipp525 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:30 pm

flipp525 wrote:I also think there could be some serious blackmail material Putin has on Trump including, but not limited to, tapes that portray underage and perhaps non-consensual (rape), sex between Trump and a minor.

Just resurrecting this post as now, it appears, I might've been right. (Although I never imagined golden showers.)
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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Big Magilla » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:40 pm

Sabin wrote:This is slightly off-topic but does anyone else think that bruschetta is basically just salsa bread? We're paying way too much for this.

Slightly? Anyway, the answer is a resounding no! I've had some lovely meals that started with bruschetta, but can't remember any that started with salsa bread!

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Re: Decision 2016

Postby Sabin » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:45 pm

This is slightly off-topic but does anyone else think that bruschetta is basically just salsa bread? We're paying way too much for this.
"If you are marching with white nationalists, you are by definition not a very nice person. If Malala Yousafzai had taken part in that rally, you'd have to say 'Okay, I guess Malala sucks now.'" ~ John Oliver


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