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Postby Precious Doll » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:24 pm

Here is the full transcript of the interview: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/t ... 8bc64a1c40
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Postby Sabin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:11 pm

Trump's embarrassing Axios interview turned into the end of a Veep episode.

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Postby Precious Doll » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:09 am

mlrg wrote:Precious, my advise to you is that you get nothing from reading these articles aside from getting even more scared.

There will always be cases like this either from Covid or any other disease.

I can share my personal story. My daughter, who is now 14 years old, was diagnosed with diabetes type 1 when she was 9. She has no family record of diabetes either from my side of the family (which is pretty large) ir from her mother’s side of the family. Most probably it was a bad case of flu or chicken pots she contracted in the beginning of 2015 which attacked her pancreas and thus killing the cells that produce insulin. She will need to inject insulin into her body for the rest of her life. But her case is a clear exception, such as the cases of side effects from COVID. They all stand in the minority number.

This is to say that side effects can come from any disease. We just have to live with it.

So, wear a mask and chill. This is my advise.


I'm not scared - just concerned and then only to a certain point because there is little that can be done. I just think it's a good idea to keep informed as to what is happening in relation to the outbreak and the disease itself. The article I posted is from a small selection of news sites that I read on a daily basis so if there is something of interest I read it.

Until yesterday I had not undertaken any additional research into COVID since about March by which time I had absorbed all I needed to know. What more I had learnt was from my usual news sources. More than five months later the world really doesn't know much more about the disease than when it first emerged and it terms of long term effects more extensive studies and of course time itself are needed.

As far mask wearing there is not doubt that they can make a difference and reduce the chances of infection or transmission but they are hardly full proof. Thankfully, there is currently minimal COVID transmissions in Sydney (the small number of community transmission are dropping as most a known contacts - thousands of people have been placed in home quarantine over the last three weeks). We have been encouraged by the State Government to wear masks but they are not mandatory. So until such times as we are directed to wear masks in public or I personally feel there is a need (whichever is first) I'll go without. I'm barely coming into contact with anybody anyway. The streets are deserted again as people are spooked by the level 4 lockdown in Melbourne.

Tonight I'm going to the closing night film at the French Film Festival which has sold out in two large cinemas. However, each cinema which seats hundreds of people are only permitting 40 people in each screening which has become the new normal.

I don't know how cinemas are going to survive because since they have opened one month ago I have yet to attend a crowded session. On Thursday my partner and I went to two new releases. One film at 10.40am in a cinema not far from were we live near the city centre. The other in the early evening at 5.10 at the cinema that we regularly attend (it is two suburbs away and a quick 10 minute drive). We were the only people at both screenings and there was barely a sole at either cinema complex.

The release schedule for the rest of August is dire - next to nothing I'm interested in seeing but the Melbourne Film Festival starts on-line later in the week so that will give me a steady flow of newer releases but I've really been enjoying visiting old friends (i.e. films) again so much.
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Postby OscarGuy » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:30 pm

And this is the kind of article that might convince those who cannot otherwise be convinced that this virus is far more impactful than they think. Even mild cases have been shown to have detrimental long-term health effects and saying it's really not that bad is dismissing the harm it can do to otherwise healthy people who act cavalierly towards the virus.
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Postby Okri » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:50 pm

The challenge, mlrg, is that there is still a substantial portion of COVID-19 that we don't understand and that includes the depth and breadth of the side effects.

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Postby mlrg » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 am

Precious, my advise to you is that you get nothing from reading these articles aside from getting even more scared.

There will always be cases like this either from Covid or any other disease.

I can share my personal story. My daughter, who is now 14 years old, was diagnosed with diabetes type 1 when she was 9. She has no family record of diabetes either from my side of the family (which is pretty large) ir from her mother’s side of the family. Most probably it was a bad case of flu or chicken pots she contracted in the beginning of 2015 which attacked her pancreas and thus killing the cells that produce insulin. She will need to inject insulin into her body for the rest of her life. But her case is a clear exception, such as the cases of side effects from COVID. They all stand in the minority number.

This is to say that side effects can come from any disease. We just have to live with it.

So, wear a mask and chill. This is my advise.

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Postby Precious Doll » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:48 am

I am copying a story (I can't like to it for reasons to long to explain) on the Sydney Morning Herald site from today that is a must read:

'I am not allowed to drive a car': COVID-19 leaves scar on Sydney doctor's heart

By Esther Han

A healthy, fit doctor in his 50s has been forced to give up exercise and driving after the coronavirus left a devastating mark on his heart.

Dr Warren Lee, a GP of 20 years in Mosman, Sydney, said he contracted COVID-19 in April and after experiencing several days of "flu-like" symptoms at home he made what he thought was a full recovery.

But when he struggled to ride his bike 1km to the barber and noticed an irregular heartbeat, he realised something was wrong.

His colleagues sent him to a cardiologist who ran tests on him.

Six weeks after he was "cleared from the virus" he had an epileptic seizure at work and spent four days in hospital.

Soon after, the doctors found a "scar right down the middle of [his] heart" called myocarditis, which was left by the coronavirus.

"Scans of my brain looked okay, scans of my lungs looked alright, but an EEG showed I had new onset epilepsy, I’ve never had that before," he said in a widely shared video on social media.

"I am no longer allowed to ride a bicycle, I am not allowed to drive a car, I’m on medication now."

Dr Lee said he was in shock because he thought he was fit, having raced on his road bike in Australia and overseas.

"What we are going through now in July is absolutely no different from where we were in March, so I do urge everyone to be careful," he said.

"I think social distancing is the only thing we have, nothing else works. We don’t have medication for this, we don’t have immunisation for this.

"It’s going to be hard but I think we just have to adjust because if you get the virus, the chances are you’re probably going to be fine, you might be okay but there is every chance you may not be. And that has massive impact to your lifestyle."

My comment: There are more and more reports of these sorts of thing occurring in people along with lung/respiratory, neurological issues and effects on other organs including the kidneys and liver. A recent report I read on a recent study of 100 people, most of whom had very mild symptoms and that nearly 80% of them had heart damage. The age range was something like 45 to 59.
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Postby Precious Doll » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:15 am

Sabin,

Sorry to hear your father has tested positive. Please keep us updated on how he is going.

Wes,

Sorry to hear about your friend. Hopefully he won't have COVID. Shortness of breath can be caused by a number of things including being stressed. Please let us know how he is going.
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Postby jack » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:35 pm

Hello. My password wouldn't work for so long. Myself, wife and kids are fine. I hope all of you are okay. I've got some catching up to do.

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Postby OscarGuy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:36 pm

I currently have a friend who woke up with shortness of breath, so his work told him to get a test. We're now waiting on the result. I had contact with him in the last two weeks, so I'm really hoping that he comes back negative, not just for his sake, but also for my anxiety.
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Postby Sabin » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:26 pm

My father just tested positive for Coronavirus. He lives in Arizona He is a 68 year old hospitalist who never takes a day off. He had no idea he was positive until this morning. He could've gotten it from work -- or from his girlfriend's niece who just traveled in from New Jersey. Either way, he has it. It appears to be a very mild case.

So... finger's crossed.
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Postby mlrg » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:25 pm

My country remains completely unlockedown since beginning of May. New cases per day for the last several weeks is between 150 and 250 per day and 6 to 10 new deaths. More than 65% of total infected are now recovered. Masks are compulsory in all closed spaces. Only disco clubs remain closed. Borders are open with several countries. We are a population of 10 million. We have 49.000 positive cases since March 2nd. An official study released today says that around 330.000 people have been in contact with the disease and developed antibodies.

I’ve been going to the office since June 1st. Maximum is 40% of people at the same time. Usually we are 20% at the office each day. I can either work from home or go to the office. It’s up to me. If I choose to go to the office, which I prefer, I have to wear a mask whenever I have to get up either to go to the bathroom or to get a coffee. I resumed meetings with large clients. I work at consulting company.

Monday I start my three week summer vacation. I had booked a trip to the Seychelles islands with my wife which obviously we had to cancel so I booked two hotels in the south of my country with private beach for the holidays. We plan to eat out every day.

I have friends and relatives that have been infected and cured. Some tested positive and showed no symptoms whatsoever during the whole time that they were positive. I know three cases that were in intensive care for two days. I know two cases, aged 91 and 85, with no relation to each other, that died from complications after falling at home. Death cause in the death certificate was covid 19 although both had brain hemorrhage and did not they were infected.

I feel no fear nor anxiety whatsoever.

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Postby Precious Doll » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:06 am

23 July 2020. It is six months to the day since China locked down Wuhan and other cities in the Hubei province to stem the spread of COVID-19.

Offical number of cases worldwide per Wikipedia: 15,247,848 (probably really 150,000,000+)

Offical number of deaths world-wide per Wikipedia: 623,863 (probably overall 1,000,000 but when one ads in the number of people that will probably die in relation to all the new infections over the last 3 to 4 weeks we are looking at 1,500,000).

Pretty much everywhere on the planet continues to worsen.

As for myself. We have stopped eating out and don't intend to until such time as the virus in my state has been contained (i.e. NO community transmission regardless of it is traceable or not). Going to the cinema be determined on a day by day basis. We went to two new releases today and the cinema complex was dead so I can't see them staying open regardless of what direction the virus goes as it couldn't possibly be financially viable.
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Postby Precious Doll » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:16 am

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Precious Doll wrote:But the big sign I'm starting to get worried is the throbbing headaches that I had in the countdown to the pandemic in February & March have returned. Not with the severity but each day is getting worse and I'm not one for getting headaches.


More than likely the headaches are tension related. It's a wonder we all don't have them.

I just learned that the reason so many old people in my area don't wear masks unless they absolutely have to, is that many of them wear glasses and hearing aids. The glasses fog up and the hearing aids fall out when the mask is removed.

Some people are periodically pulling their mask down below their noses to stop their glasses from steaming. Obviously that's unsafe. The best way to keep your glasses from fogging up is tape the top of the mask to your face with surgical tape or band-aids so that the steam will exit the sides of the mask. I don't know what one could do about hearing aids. You can't very well tape them, that would defeat the purpose.

Churches are opening up around the Jersey Shore. Seats are kept apart at a safe distance. I'm told there is no kneeling in the local Catholic church. The only standing is during communion when those who wish to receive it have to stand to let the priest or designated lay person know to come to them. That may be safer than having people line up at the altar but I don't think it's all that safe. It would have been worse in the old days when the priest put the wafer on the parishioner's tongue, but for decades now the practice has been to place it in his or her outstretched hand. I don't know what they're doing to insure had to hand to mouth and on to the next person won't result in spreading.


I sort of figured tension headaches. The one I had when I was writing the earlier post has gone away thanks to a late dinner with a two bottles of red wine shared between three of us.

The fogging up of glasses is awful. I've only had to wear a mask once and that was for a minor medical appointment a couple of months ago that lasted all of 15 minutes. There are a couple of tips on the internet for stopping glasses from fogging up including dipping them in some kind of liquid to create a coat over the lenses but I don't like the sounds of that. If we get to the stage were we have to wear masks I'll deal with it then I suppose and if scarfs are considered acceptable that is probably what I will stick to - at least until summer comes along.

I'm seeing more people wearing masks than every before. But some of the older people appear to be wearing the same mask over and over again as the masks are filthy. I know there is a lot of debate about masks but if people aren't wearing them properly there is little point in wearing them. The debate over masks continues to rage in Australia. Whilst the State Government in Victoria have mandated them from Thursday onwards and with good reason given the number of new cases everyday the Federal Government maintains a do as you please attitude and I think some of it has to do with shortages of masks and PPT more than anything else.
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Postby Big Magilla » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:58 am

Precious Doll wrote:But the big sign I'm starting to get worried is the throbbing headaches that I had in the countdown to the pandemic in February & March have returned. Not with the severity but each day is getting worse and I'm not one for getting headaches.


More than likely the headaches are tension related. It's a wonder we all don't have them.

I just learned that the reason so many old people in my area don't wear masks unless they absolutely have to, is that many of them wear glasses and hearing aids. The glasses fog up and the hearing aids fall out when the mask is removed.

Some people are periodically pulling their mask down below their noses to stop their glasses from steaming. Obviously that's unsafe. The best way to keep your glasses from fogging up is tape the top of the mask to your face with surgical tape or band-aids so that the steam will exit the sides of the mask. I don't know what one could do about hearing aids. You can't very well tape them, that would defeat the purpose.

Churches are opening up around the Jersey Shore. Seats are kept apart at a safe distance. I'm told there is no kneeling in the local Catholic church. The only standing is during communion when those who wish to receive it have to stand to let the priest or designated lay person know to come to them. That may be safer than having people line up at the altar but I don't think it's all that safe. It would have been worse in the old days when the priest put the wafer on the parishioner's tongue, but for decades now the practice has been to place it in his or her outstretched hand. I don't know what they're doing to insure had to hand to mouth and on to the next person won't result in spreading.


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