1972 Oscar Shouldabeens

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Best Picture
Cabaret
Deliverance
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Emigrants
The Godfather(winner)

Best Director
John Boorman for Deliverance
Luis Bunuel for The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Francis Ford Coppola for The Godfather(winner)
Bob Fosse in Cabaret
Jan Troell for The Emigrants

Best Actor
Marlon Brando in The Godfather
Michael Caine in Sleuth
Laurence Olivier in Sleuth
Peter O'Toole in The Ruling Class
Al Pacino in The Godfather(winner)

Best Actress
Liza Minnelli in Cabaret(winner)
Diana Ross in Lady Sings the Blues
Barbra Streisand in What's Up Doc?
Cicely Tyson in Sounder
Liv Ullmann in The Emigrants

Best Supporting Actor
Eddie Albert in The Heartbreak Kid
James Caan in The Godfather
Robert Duvall in The Godfather
Joel Grey in Cabaret(winner)
Paul Winfield in Sounder

Best Supporting Actress
Stephanie Audran in The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Jeannie Berlin in The Heartbreak Kid
Eileen Heckart in Butterflies are Free
Madeline Kahn in What's Up Doc?(winner)
Susan Tyrrel in Fat City

Best Original Screenplay
Bad Company
The Candidate
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie(winner)
Murmur of the Heart
What's Up Doc?

Best Adapted Screenplay
Cabaret
The Emigrants
Frenzy
The Godfather(winner)
The Heartbreak Kid

Best Cinematography
Cabaret
Deliverance
The Emigrants
The Godfather(winner)
Solaris

Best Editing
Cabaret(winner)
Deliverance
Frenzy
The Godfather
What's Up Doc?
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BEST PICTURE: The Godfather
BEST DIRECTING: Bob Fosse, Cabaret
BEST LEADING ACTOR: Al Pacino, The Godfather
BEST LEADING ACTRESS: Liza Minnelli, Cabaret
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Joel Grey, Cabaret
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Eileen Heckart, Butterflies Are Free
BEST SCREENPLAY: The Godfather
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY: Cabaret
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Re: 1972 Oscar Shouldabeens

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Best Picture: The Godfather
Best Director: Francis Ford Coppola for The Godfather
Best Actor: Al Pacino in The Godfather
Best Actress: Liza Minnelli in Cabaret
Best Supporting Actor: Joel Grey in Cabaret
Best Supporting Actress: Madeline Kahn in What's up, Doc?
Best Original Screenplay: The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Best Adapted Screenplay: The Godfather
Best Score: The Godfather
Best Art Direction: The Godfather
Best Costume Design: Cabaret
Best Editing: Cabaret
Best Cinematography: The Godfather
Best Sound: The Godfather
Best Foreign Film: The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
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Re: 1972 Oscar Shouldabeens

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One of my favorite Supporting Actress performances of 1972 that has been completely overlooked in this thread is that of Ellen Burstyn in The King of Marvin Gardens.

Among the Supporting Actors, I thought Robert Duvall was the weakest of the three Godfather nominees. If I wanted to be a real mischief-maker I'd replace Duvall with Sterling Hayden, as the crooked cop in The Godfather. His demise in the restaurant scene is a marvel to watch.
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Re: 1972 Oscar Shouldabeens

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Best Picture

Lady Sings the Blues- WINNER
The Godfather- 3rd Place
Sounder- 4th Place
Cu Mainile Curate- RUNNER UP
Images- 5th Place

Best Director

Francis Ford Coppola- The Godfather- 3rd Place
Sidney J. Furrie- Lady Sings the Blues- RUNNER UP
Charles B. Pierce- The Legend of Boggy Creek- WINNER
Joseph L. Mankiewicz- Sleuth- 5th Place
John Boorman- Deliverance- 4th Place

Best Actress
Cicely Tyson- Sounder- 3rd Place
Maggie Smith- Travels With My Aunt- RUNNER UP
Diana Ross- Lady Sings the Blues- WINNER
Ali MacGraw- The Getaway- 5th Place
Susannah York- Images- 4th Place

Best Actor
Paul Winfield- Sounder-4th Place
Gosta Ekman- The Man Who Quit Smoking- 5th Place
Marlon Brando- The Godfather- RUNNER UP
Al Pacino- The Godfather- 3rd Place
Billy Dee Williams- Lady Sings the Blues- WINNER

Best Supporting Actress
Madeline Kahn- What's Up, Doc?- 4th Place
Susan Tyrrell- Fat City- WINNER
Jeanie Berlin- The Heartbreak Kid- 3rd Place
Geraldine Paige- Pete n Tillie- 5th Place
Karen Black- Portnoy's Complaint- RUNNER UP

Best Supporting Actor
James Caan- The Godfather- RUNNER UP
John Cazale- The Godfather- 3rd Place
Robert DuVall- The Godfather- 5th Place
Richard Pryor- Lady Sings the Blues- WINNER
Burt Reynolds- Deliverance- 4th Place
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BEST PICTURE
01. The Godfather (dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
02. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (dir. Werner Herzog)
03. Cabaret (dir. Bob Fosse)
04. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (dir. Luis Buñuel)
05. Solaris (dir. Andrei Tarkovsky)
06. Sleuth (dir. Joseph L. Mankiewicz)
07. The New Land (dir. Jan Troell)
08. Pink Flamingos (dir. John Waters)
09. State of Siege (dir. Costa-Gavras)
10. What's Up, Doc? (dir. Peter Bogdanovich)

BEST DIRECTOR
01. Werner Herzog, Aguirre, the Wrath of God
02. Luis Buñuel, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
03. Bob Fosse, Cabaret
04. Andrei Tarkovsky, Solaris
05. Francis Ford Coppola, The Godfather

BEST ACTOR
01. Laurence Olivier, Sleuth
02. Klaus Kinski, Aguirre, the Wrath of God
03. Peter O'Toole, The Ruling Class
04. Max von Sydow, The New Land
05. Michael Caine, Sleuth

BEST ACTRESS
01. Liza Minnelli, Cabaret
02. Margit Carstensen, The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
03. Liv Ullmann, The New Land
04. Susannah York, Images
05. Cicely Tyson, Sounder

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
01. Joel Grey, Cabaret
02. Fernando Rey, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
03. Clive Revill, Avanti!
04. Robert Duvall, The Godfather
05. Robert Preston, Junior Bonner

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
01. Madeline Kahn; What's Up, Doc?
02. Stéphane Audran, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
03. Ellen Burstyn, The King of Marvin Gardens
04. Susan Tyrrell, Fat City
05. Uta Hagen, The Other

BEST SCREENPLAY
01. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Luis Buñuel, Jean-Claude Carrière)
02. Sleuth (Anthony Shaffer, based on his play of the same name)
03. What's Up, Doc? (Buck Henry, David Newman, Robert Benton, Peter Bogdanovich)
04. Love in the Afternoon (Éric Rohmer)
05. Pink Flamingos (John Waters)

BEST FILM EDITING
01. Deliverance (Tom Priestley)
02. State of Siege (Françoise Bonnot)
03. Cabaret (David Bretherton)
04. The Godfather (William Reynolds, Peter Zinner)
05. What's Up, Doc? (Verna Fields)

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
01. The New Land (Jan Troell)
02. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Thomas Mauch)
03. Cabaret (Geoffrey Unsworth)
04. The Godfather (Gordon Willis)
05. Deliverance (Vilmos Zsigmond)

BEST ART DIRECTION
01. Roma (Danilo Donati, Andrea Fantacci)
02. Cabaret (Rolf Zehetbauer, Hans Jürgen Kiebach)
03. Sleuth (Ken Adam, Peter Lamont, John Jarvis)
04. Solaris (Mikhail Romadin, S. Gavrilov, V. Prokofev)
05. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Pierre Guffroy)

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
01. Roma (Danilo Donati)
02. Cabaret (Charlotte Flemming)
03. 1776 (Patricia Zipprodt)
04. Lady Sings the Blues (Ray Aghayan, Bob Mackie)
05. The New Land (Ulla-Britt Söderlund)

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
01. Super Fly (Curtis Mayfield)
02. Images (John Williams)
03. Trouble Man (Marvin Gaye)
04. Solaris (Eduard Artemev)
05. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Popol Vuh)

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
01. Across 110th Street ("Across 110th Street," music, lyrics, and performance by Bobby Womack)
02. Super Fly ("Super Fly," music, lyrics, and performance by Curtis Mayfield)
03. Super Fly ("Pusherman," music, lyrics, and performance by Curtis Mayfield)
04. Super Fly ("Freddie's Dead," music, lyrics, and performance by Curtis Mayfield)
05. Trouble Man ("Trouble Man," music, lyrics, and performance by Marvin Gaye)

BEST SOUND
01. Silent Running (Charles T. Knight, John H. Newman, Richard Portman)
02. Skyjacked (Harry W. Tetrick, Charles M. Wilborn)
03. Cabaret (David Hildyard, Robert Knudson, Arthur Piantadosi)
04. The Poseidon Adventure (John A. Bonner, Herman Lewis, Theodore Soderberg)
05. Deliverance (Jim Atkinson, Walter Goss, Doug E. Turner)

BEST MAKEUP & HAIRSTYLING
01. Tales from the Crypt (Roy Ashton, Joan Carpenter)
02. Aguirre, the Wrath of God (uncredited)
03. The Ruling Class (Eric Allwright, Ramon Gow, Susie Hill, Charles E. Parker)
04. Cabaret (Susi Krause, Gus Le Pre, Raimund Stangl)
05. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (Jack Barron, John Chambers, Joe DiBella, Carol Pershing, Daniel C. Striepeke)

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
01. The Poseidon Adventure (A. D. Flowers, L. B. Abbott)
02. Solaris (A. Klimenko, V. Sevostyanov)
03. Skyjacked (Ralph Swartz, Bill Hansard)
04. Silent Running (Vernon Archer, Jim Dow, R. L. Helmer, Richard O. Helmer, Marlin Jones, Paul Kraus, James Rugg, Don Trumbull)
05. Z.P.G. (Derek Meddings)

FINAL TALLY
10 nominations: Cabaret (2 wins)
6 nominations: Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1 win), The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1 win)
5 nominations: The Godfather (1 win), The New Land (1 win), Sleuth (1 win), Solaris
4 nominations: Super Fly (1 win); What's Up, Doc? (1 win)
3 nominations: Deliverance (1 win)
2 nominations: Images, Pink Flamingos, Roma (2 wins), The Poseidon Adventure (1 win), The Ruling Class, Silent Running (1 win), Skyjacked, State of Siege, Trouble Man
1 nomination: Across 110th Street (1 win), Avanti!, The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, Fat City, Junior Bonner, The King of Marvin Gardens, Lady Sings the Blues, Love in the Afternoon, The Other, 1776, Sounder, Tales from the Crypt (1 win), Z.P.G.
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HarryGoldfarb wrote:Who presented the award?
On the Godfather Trilogy DVD collection, they have the presentations of both Best Picture winners.

The presenter for The Godfather was producer Albert S. Ruddy's buddy Clint Eastwood.

Warren Beatty presented Best Picture for The Godfather, Part II.
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BEST PICTURE
Cabaret
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
*The Godfather
Murmur of the Heart
What’s Up Doc?

BEST DIRECTOR
Ingmar Bergman - Cries and Whispers
Louis Bunuel - The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Francis Ford Coppola - The Godfather
*Bob Fosse - Cabaret
Louis Malle - Murmur of the Heart

BEST ACTOR
Alan Bates – A Day In the Death of Joe Egg
*Marlon Brando – The Godfather
Michael Caine – Sleuth
Laurence Olivier – Sleuth
Al Pacino – The Godfather

BEST ACTRESS
Goldie Hawn – Butterflies Are Free
*Liza Minelli - Cabaret
Helen Mirren – Miss Julie
Diana Ross – Lady Sings the Blues
Maggie Smith – Travels with My Aunt
Joanne Woodward –Effects of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the Moon Marigolds

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
James Caan – The Godfather
Robert Duvall - The Godfather
*Joel Grey - Cabaret
Clive Revill - Avanti!
Paul Winfield – Sounder

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Stephane Audran - The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
Jeannie Berlin – The Heartbreak Kid
*Eileen Heckart - Butterflies Are Free
Madeleine Kahn - What’s Up Doc?
Susan Tyrrell – Fat City

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Cries and Whispers
*The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Heartbreak Kid
Murmur of the Heart
What’s Up Doc?

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Avanti!
Butterflies Are Free
Cabaret
*The Godfather
Sleuth

BEST ENSEMBLE
Cries and Whispers
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
*The Godfather
Murmur of the Heart
What’s Up Doc?
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--Sabin wrote:Did Peter Boyle have a shot for The Candidate?

No. The screenplay was widely hailed and although the performances of Redford, Boyle, Allen Garfield and Melvyn Douglas were noted none of them was considered particularly award worthy as I recall. This was the year of The Godfather with Caan, Duvall, Pacino and Richard Casellano all considered major supporting actor contenders along with Joel Grey, Eddie Albert and Robert Preston (Junior Bonner), Alec McCowen (Travels With My Aunt/Frenzy), Fernando Rey (The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie), Robert Shaw (Young Winston), Clive Revill (Avanti!) and even James Coco (Man of La Mancha).

The closest Boyle ever got to a major film award was Joe, his first starring role for which he was a runner-up at the New York Film Critics to George C. Scott in Patton.




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Did Peter Boyle have a shot for The Candidate?
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--HarryGoldfarb wrote:
--Big Magilla wrote:Of the twenty acting nominees, the only one I disagreed with was Paul Winfield, not because he wasn't good in Sounder, but because his role was small, probably the shortest of any actor ever to be nominated for a lead Oscar. My choice for the slot was James Mason at his mesmerizing best in Child's Play.

Actually Magilla, you have Winfield in your Shouldabeens list...

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--Big Magilla wrote:Of the twenty acting nominees, the only one I disagreed with was Paul Winfield, not because he wasn't good in Sounder, but because his role was small, probably the shortest of any actor ever to be nominated for a lead Oscar. My choice for the slot was James Mason at his mmesmerizing best in Child's Play.

Actually Magilla, you have Winfield in your Shouldabeens list...

This year still strikes me as one of the most outstanding ever; the Oscar race alone must have been an exciting two horses one... Recently I saw Cabaret for the first time ever (I had seen excerpts from the film but never had the chance to catch it) and I was extremely impressed. Fosse did a great, revolutionary work, the films is edgy, sexy, smart and visually stunning. One of the things that amazed me the most was Joel Grey's performance... Now I understand (kind of) how those three amazing guys form The Godfather couldn't grab the award in spite of their great job. Joel Grey is absolutely hypnotizing, I couldn't blink my eyes while he was on screen and what amazed me the most was that this guy doesn't even have a story, a background... it's pure personality, charisma and character. He doesn't even have a name! He didn't show any range or for that matter he doesn't have "a scene"... he's just The Master of Ceremony throughout the film but man he did succeed at it! Minelli's work of course is great but the story is even better. How edgy that story must have been at its time. This musical surely shoot to death the traditional concept of musical, this one was no Sound of Music (released merely 8 years before) or Hello Dolly! (from 3 years before)... dealing with such dark matters (for general audiences I mean) but stating that life is a Cabaret is in my humble opinion a major achievement in movie history.

On the other hand Coppola made the ultimate film, a work for the ages, a family tale in a bloody scenario. The Godfather has its reputation and his place in movie history for good reasons. The whole cast was unbelievably good, the atmosphere is perfect and throughout the film there's this tense calm that makes yourself to pay close attention to every detail... and the magic is that the whole story was told in such a natural way, as if everything going on was a regular matter on a day to day basis. We feel sympathy over characters (that we actually ended up caring about, loving them almost) otherwise hateable, people that in real life we wouldn't want to stay close at, people who do terrible things, but we see their enviroment, the context they live in and we understand them and in the end we feel they did the right thing... Creepy as it is, that's its major achievement.

Being born in 1980 I can only imagine how the race was... Recently, we, as film lovers, suffered the Crash victory over Brokeback Mountain, a film the majority of us felt was the best of the year. During the ceremony, we saw Brokeback Mountain loose major awards, but even in the end we still had our hopes on the fact it could still win. And that moment wasn't a good thing to see, that's what we called a major shock. Can anybody remember and tell us how this ceremony was?. I mean, this one should have been a bigger shock. With Cabaret having won 8 awards out of ten nominations and The Godfather only 2 by the time Best Picture was going to be announced, I bet everyone thought Cabaret was going to win... What was the overall reaction, the crowd, the press in the following days... Who presented the award?




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--Cinemanolis wrote:Great year for the best actress category.

Maggie Smith, Liza Minelli, Joanne Woodward, Barbara Streisand, Diana Ross , Liv Ullmann, Goldie Hawn, and i suppose Cicely Tyson (which i haven't seen) were all worthy along with Ruth Gordon for 'Harold and Maude' who was also eligible i think.

The supporting actress category was way weeker. I would include 2 names nobody mentioned: Irene Papas and Vanessa Redgrave in 'The Trojan Women'.

Both Harold and Maude and The Trojan Women were eligible in 1971.

I thought Heckart, Winters and Tyrrell were all terrific. I admired Berlin's gutsiness in playing an unlikaable character in a film directed by her own mother more than I actually liked her performance.

Geraldine Page was borderline. She was the best thing about Pete 'n' Tillie and was also memorable as Cliff Robertson's mother in J.W. Coop. Ida Lupino had a similar role to the latter as Steve McQueen's mother in Junior Bonner and would have made a marvelous alternative to either Page or Berlin.




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--Cinemanolis wrote:I think that somebody actually did use his pass to save her.

Unfortunately, that's not what happened. OscarGuy gave it to Shelley Winters :(




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flipp525 wrote:If I had gotten Best Supporting Actress, 1972 in Penelope's game, I would've used a pass in a heartbeat to save Heckart's Oscar.
I think that somebody actually did use his pass to save her. I agree that her performance was excellent.

I haven't seen Fat City, but i really didn't care much about Shelley Winters or Geraldine Page (who i usually love). The thing is that in the Best Actress category i really struggle to decide which of these 9 perfomances make it to the top5 (and i am leaving out the 'Cries and Whispers' girls), while in the supporting category i have no great dilemas.
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