1986 Oscar Shouldabeens

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Best Picture: Blue Velvet
Best Director: David Lynch for Blue Velvet
Best Actor: Bob Hoskins in Mona Lisa
Best Actress: Isabella Rossellini in Blue Velvet
Best Supporting Actor: Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet
Best Supporting Actress: Dianne Wiest in Hannah and Her Sisters
Best Original Screenplay: Hannah and Her Sisters
Best Adapted Screenplay: A Room with a View
Best Score: The Mission
Best Art Direction: A Room with a View
Best Costume Design: A Room with a View
Best Editing: Blue Velvet
Best Cinematography: Platoon
Best Sound: Platoon
Best Foreign Film: ???
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Best Picture
01. Blue Velvet
02. The Sacrifice
03. Down by Law
04. True Stories
05. The Mission
06. Platoon
07. Aliens
08. Shadows in Paradise
09. The Fly
10. Mona Lisa

Best Actor
01. Erland Josephson, The Sacrifice
02. Bob Hoskins, Mona Lisa
03. Jeff Goldblum, The Fly
04. Matti Pellonpää, Shadows in Paradise
05. Jeremy Irons, The Mission

06. Kyle MacLachlan, Blue Velvet

Best Actress
01. Sigourney Weaver, Aliens
02. Melanie Griffith, Something Wild
03. Kati Outinen, Shadows in Paradise
04. Sissy Spacek, Crimes of the Heart
05. Isabella Rossellini, Blue Velvet

06. Helena Bonham Carter, A Room with a View

Best Supporting Actor
01. Dennis Hopper, Blue Velvet
02. Willem Dafoe, Platoon
03. Roberto Benigni, Down by Law
04. Tom Berenger, Platoon
05. Michael Caine, Mona Lisa

Best Supporting Actress
01. Maggie Smith, A Room with a View
02. Barbara Hershey, Hannah and Her Sisters
03. Jo Harvey Allen, True Stories
04. Dianne Wiest, Hannah and Her Sisters
05. Swoosie Kurtz, True Stories

06. Cathy Tyson, Mona Lisa

Best Director
01. Andrei Tarkovsky, The Sacrifice
02. David Lynch, Blue Velvet
03. Jim Jarmusch, Down by Law
04. David Byrne, True Stories
05. David Cronenberg, The Fly

06. Roland Joffé, The Mission
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--Big Magilla wrote:and the Theme from Shaft, which won in 1972 consisted of what, Isaac Hayes repeating Shaft's name over and over?

No, it did not.




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Doesn't the song play during the sex scene in which Tom Cruise licks Kelly McGillis' face?
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I'm pretty sure the song was played all the way through at some point, but song rules have changed over the years. The Theme from The High and the Mighty, for example, which was a a 1954 nominee was whistled, not sung, by John Wayne and the Theme from Shaft, which won in 1972 consisted of what, Isaac Hayes repeating Shaft's name over and over? More recently however, Emmylou Harris' song from Brokeback Mountain was deemed ineligible because not enough of the song was heard in the film.
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Okay, I have a weird question. I just watched Top Gun. Not my first choice for the evening, believe me, but after a LONG day at jury duty I didn't want to pop in something with subtitles in such an exhausted state of mind.

My question is, how was Take My Breath Away even eligible for Best Song? I could hear the main strain a couple times in the movie, but didn't hear any lyrics. It's not played over the end credits. In today's era -- when stuff is randomly disqualified for not being prominently featured enough -- I can't imagine this being remotely eligible. Were the rules different back then? Or is the song featured in the film some place and I just was out of it (a good possibility)?
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Hershey is marvelous and her absence mystifies me as well. I think Dianne Wiest deserves the Oscar more because she takes an archetypal Woody Allen kamikaze woman and makes her genuinely understandable which is not an easy thing to be done. But Hershey is sexy as hell and her scenes with von Sydow (and indeed everyone) are largely one takes. Michael Caine gives one of my all-time favorite performances as Elliot, a man who is hysterically enrapt in the affair in his brain and she is a perfect match for him. You buy her reciprocal affection for him even as it's as strange to her as it is for him.

'Hannah and Her Sisters' to me is a more accidentally brilliant film. It takes some cheats near the end and has no business ending so happily. It's like musical comedy Chekhov. But where Caine & Hershey's dynamic seems to lose importance near the end, Woody Allen & Wiest's becomes sublime. The movie is a big fat happy place and it features ('Manhattan' obviously excepted) Woody Allen's greatest soundtrack. I would've picked it for Best Picture.
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I completely agree, Reza. Hershey is outstanding in Hannah and Her Sisters, giving one of my favorite female supporting performances of the 80's. I love the scene when Hershey's character, Lee, meets up with Hannah (Farrow) and Holly (Wiest) for lunch. Before Holly arrives Lee and Hannah are catching up. Hannah asks about Lee's recent break-up with Frederick, unaware of course that Lee is actually carrying on an affair with her husband, Elliot (Caine). After glossing over the moment, Lee asks how "Hannah and Frederick" are by mistake and then quickly corrects herself to say Elliot. It's such a perfect moment.



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--flipp525 wrote:
--Big Magilla wrote:I think Hershey was on the short list for all three films, but just missed out in all three cases.

Dianne Wiest dominated critics' awards with Hannah, makign Hershey clearly a second choice in most people's minds and her starrign role in A World Apart came in 1988 which as others have said was a year of an embarsamment of riches in the best actress race.

In watching Hannah and Her Sisters again last night, I have to wonder, again, how Barbara Hershey was not nominated for an Oscar alongside her co-stars Dianne Wiest and Michael Caine (who both won, of course). Caine is fantastic as the haplessly adorable adulterer and Wiest's neurotic bauble of a performance is endearing in her character's sort of unconfident frantic world, but I find Hershey simply divine. I always finish the film wondering again how she could not have been recognized. The break-up scene between Hershey and Max von Sydow is one of the most well-acted scenes in the entire film. And the scene of her reading the ee cummings poem quietly in bed as a secret message from her admirer is beautiful and touching.

I easily would've taken out any of the other Best Supporting Actress nominees that year (save Wiest) and put Hershey in (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in The Color of Money? I mean, what did she even do in that movie?)

The film is definitely one of the top ten films of the 1980's.

On a sidenote, why are 70 YEARS of Oscar discussion threads bunched into one unnavigable category? That doesn't make any sense and makes it impossible to find anything.

I'm so glad there is someone else who thinks Hershey should have been nominated for Hannah and Her Sisters. Yes, it is a superb performance.

She needs to get back into the Oscar race. Unfortunately there is nothing on the horizon that she is doing which could be Oscar caliber.




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--Big Magilla wrote:Actually it's quite easy to find Oscar Shouldabeens. Go to the bottom of the page, click on topic title in ascending order from the beginning and since numerical listings appear before alphabetical ones they pop right up in order.

That's nice to know, but I'm not just looking for Oscar Shouldabeens. Discussions of any sort were also listed under their appropriate decade (the "Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet" thread, for example). Now they're all just bunched together. It's disorganized.




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--flipp525 wrote:On a sidenote, why are 70 YEARS of Oscar discussion threads bunched into one unnavigable category. That doesn't make any sense and makes it impossible to find anything.

Actually it's quite easy to find Oscar Shouldabeens. Go to the bottom of the page, click on topic title in ascending order from the beginning and since numerical listings appear before alphabetical ones they pop right up in order.




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--Big Magilla wrote:I think Hershey was on the short list for all three films, but just missed out in all three cases.

Dianne Wiest dominated critics' awards with Hannah, makign Hershey clearly a second choice in most people's minds and her starrign role in A World Apart came in 1988 which as others have said was a year of an embarsamment of riches in the best actress race.

In watching Hannah and Her Sisters again last night, I have to wonder, again, how Barbara Hershey was not nominated for an Oscar alongside her co-stars Dianne Wiest and Michael Caine (who both won, of course). Caine is fantastic as the haplessly adorable adulterer and Wiest's neurotic bauble of a performance is endearing in her character's sort of unconfident frantic world, but I find Hershey simply divine. I always finish the film wondering again how she could not have been recognized. The break-up scene between Hershey and Max von Sydow is one of the most well-acted scenes in the entire film. And the scene of her reading the ee cummings poem quietly in bed as a secret message from her admirer is beautiful and touching.

I easily would've taken out any of the other Best Supporting Actress nominees that year (save Wiest) and put Hershey in (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in The Color of Money? I mean, what did she even do in that movie?)

The film is definitely one of the top ten films of the 1980's.

On a sidenote, why are 70 YEARS of Oscar discussion threads bunched into one unnavigable category? That doesn't make any sense and makes it impossible to find anything.




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And let me officially state that I adored Melanie Griffith in Working Girl (which also contains one of Harrison Ford's best performances).
I adored her too although If we look back I think her performance was overrated.
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--Damien wrote:It's not as bad as Interiors

I love Interiors! One of my absolute favorite Geraldine Page performances. I have a slightly distant mother who's an interior decorator, though so that might have something to do with it...

On Barbara Hershey: She's a wonderful actress (even in tripe like Boxcar Bertha) but one performance that's always stayed with me (and not in a good way) was hers' in Last Summer. The character is downright despicable. I'd never seen a woman participate in a gang rape before so thanks for that, :/




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--Penelope wrote:
For me the most unfortunate omission wasn't Barbara Hershey but Susan Sarandon in Bull Durham.


Amen to that. And let me officially state that I adored Melanie Griffith in Working Girl (which also contains one of Harrison Ford's best performances).

I'd like to second that, Penelope. Griffiths' performance is just wonderful. I love her "bod for sin" line. Working Girl also contains my favorite Weaver performance.

There was also quite an uproar at the time over the initial print ad for the film which highlighted Harrison Ford and Sigourney Weaver, while third billed Griffith in the film's title role was seen in the background of the two megastars. Whether by design or accident, this seeming insult added to her appeal and gave her supporters a rallying point for launching her Oscar campaign as an underdog.

Shades of Jennifer Hudson and the Dreamgirls campaign, it sounds like.




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