[PO] Penelope's Elimination Game

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Postby Penelope » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:38 pm

OscarGuy wrote:I passed, but you don't get to re-do my assigned category. You get to do the one I assigned to you. At least I think that's how it works.

That's correct; if a player passes--essentially keeping the winner--then that category/year is marked out, and the next player uses the next category/year (as stipulated by the previous player).
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Postby OscarGuy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:26 pm

I passed, but you don't get to re-do my assigned category. You get to do the one I assigned to you. At least I think that's how it works.
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Postby Zahveed » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:20 pm

OscarGuy, did you use your pass or are you sticking with what you said the first time?
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Postby OscarGuy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:57 pm

I've got Apocalypse Now Redux and another tape of Apocalypse Now sitting at home, but I've never gotten around to watching it...
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Postby FilmFan720 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:50 pm

You've never seen Apocalypse Now? Shame on you:)
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Postby OscarGuy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:31 pm

ok. I'll use my pass on that one because I've seen a few stills from Apocalypse Now and I don't know that there would be a more deserving winner.
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Postby Penelope » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:19 pm

Regarding passing: you could say, "I pass and Apocalypse Now remains the winner." But, remember, once you've used 3 passes, you MUST select a different winner.

I was initially going to say all the categories from every year, but a) I realize many people haven't seen the early winners/nominees and b) may not have seen some of the more obscure nominees even in recent decades.

So, let's keep the years limited to 1944 to the present (the beginning of the 5 slotted Best Picture category) and limit the categories to the following:

Picture
Director
Actor
Actress
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Adapted Screenplay
Original Screenplay
Cinematography
Original Score
Original Song




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Postby FilmFan720 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:14 pm

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Postby OscarGuy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:09 pm

How do you want to handle passing? I've only seen 2 of the 5 nominated films and I haven't seen 1941 in years...but I certainly wouldn't give the award to the other film I'd seen: Kramer vs. Kramer...so, if we can't pass, then I'll leave it be...

Oh and which categories are we limiting this to?

So, I'll pass to Zahveed Best Actress 1992.

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Postby Penelope » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:18 pm

Ok, here's the current tally as of 2/18/08:

Cinematography '32/'33: Reunion in Vienna eliminates A Farewell to Arms

Adapted Screenplay '35: The Lives of a Bengal Lancer eliminates The Informer

Supporting Actress '36: Alice Brady eliminates Gale Sondargaard

Director ’37: Gregory LaCava eliminates Leo McCarey
Actress '37: Greta Garbo eliminates Luise Rainer

Picture ’39: The Wizard of Oz eliminates Gone with the Wind

Actress '40: Joan Fontaine eliminates Ginger Rogers

Picture '41: Citizen Kane eliminates How Green Was My Valley
Actress '41: Greer Garson eliminates Joan Fontaine

Supporting Actress ’42: Agnes Moorhead eliminates Teresa Wright

Picture ’43: Casablanca remains the winner

Adapted Screenplay '44: Laura eliminates Going My Way

Picture ’45: Spellbound eliminates The Lost Weekend

Director ’46: William Wyler remains the winner

Actress ’47: Joan Crawford eliminates Loretta Young

Director '48: Laurence Olivier eliminates John Huston

Director '49: William Wyler eliminates Joseph L. Mankiewicz

Actress ’50: Bette Davis eliminates Judy Holliday
Supporting Actress ’50: Celeste Holm eliminates Josephine Hull
Black & White Cinematography ’50: All About Eve eliminates The Third Man

Director '51: Elia Kazan eliminates George Stevens
Actress ’51: Katharine Hepburn eliminates Vivien Leigh
Supporting Actress ’51: Kim Hunter remains the winner

Director '52: John Ford remains the winner

Actor '53: Montgomery Clift eliminates William Holden

Director '54: Alfred Hitchcock eliminates Elia Kazan
Actor ’54: James Mason eliminates Marlon Brando
Actress '54: Dorothy Dandridge eliminates Grace Kelly
Screenplay '54: Rear Window eliminates The Country Girl
Original Song '54: "The Man That Got Away" eliminates "Three Coins in the Fountain"

Picture '55: Marty remains the winner
Actor '55: James Dean eliminates Ernest Borgnine
Actress '55: Katharine Hepburn eliminates Anna Magnani

Picture '56: Giant eliminates Around the World in 80 Days
Adapted Screenplay ’56: Friendly Persuasion eliminates Around the World in 80 Days

Actress ’57: Lana Turner eliminates Joanne Woodward
Supporting Actor '57: Sessue Hayakawa eliminates Red Buttons

Picture '58: The Defiant Ones eliminates Gigi
Actress '58: Susan Hayward remains the winner

Original Screenplay '59: The 400 Blows eliminates Pillow Talk

Director ’60: Alfred Hitchcock eliminates Billy Wilder
Supporting Actor ’60: Sal Mineo eliminates Peter Ustinov

Actor '61: Paul Newman eliminates Maximilian Schell
Actress '61: Audrey Hepburn eliminates Sophia Loren

Actor ’62: Gregory Peck remains the winner
Actress '62: Lee Remick eliminates Anne Bancroft
B&W Cinematography '62: Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? eliminates The Longest Day

Director '63: Federico Fellini eliminates Tony Richardson
Original Screenplay '63: 8 1/2 eliminates How the West was Won

Picture '64: Dr. Strangelove eliminates My Fair Lady
Actor '64: Peter Sellers eliminates Rex Harrison
Original Song '64: "Hush...Hush Sweet Charlotte" eliminates "Chim-chim-cheree"

Actor '65: Oskar Werner eliminates Lee Marvin
Actress '65: Samantha Eggar eliminates Julie Christie

Actress ’66: Ida Kaminska eliminates Elizabeth Taylor

Picture ’67: The Graduate eliminates In the Heat of the Night
Supporting Actor '67: Gene Hackman eliminates George Kennedy
Adapted Screenplay ’67: The Graduate eliminates In the Heat of the Night

Director ’68: Gillo Pontecorvo eliminates Carol Reed
Actor '68: Peter O'Toole eliminates Cliff Robertson
Supporting Actress ’68: Ruth Gordon remains the winner
Original Song ’68: “Star!” eliminates “The Windmills of My Mind”

Actor '69: Jon Voight eliminates John Wayne
Supporting Actress ’69: Goldie Hawn remains the winner

Director '70: Robert Altman eliminates Franklin J. Schaffner
Actor '70: Melvyn Douglas eliminates George C. Scott
Original Score ’70: Patton eliminates Love Story

Picture '71: The Last Picture Show eliminates The French Connection
Actress '71: Julie Christie eliminates Jane Fonda
Cinematography ’71: The Last Picture Show eliminates Fiddler on the Roof

Director '72: Francis Ford Coppola eliminates Bob Fosse
Actor ’72: Paul Winfield eliminates Marlon Brando
Supporting Actor '72: Al Pacino eliminates Joel Grey
Supporting Actress '72: Shelley Winters eliminates Eileen Heckart

Picture '73: Cries and Whispers eliminates The Sting
Film Editing ’73: American Graffiti eliminates The Sting

Best Picture '74: The Towering Inferno eliminates The Godfather Part II
Actor '74: Jack Nicholson eliminates Art Carney
Supporting Actress '74: Madeline Kahn eliminates Ingrid Bergman

Director ’75: Robert Altman eliminates Milos Forman
Actress '75: Isabelle Adjani eliminates Louise Fletcher
Supporting Actress '75: Lily Tomlin eliminates Lee Grant
Cinematography '75: Barry Lyndon remains the winner

Picture ’76: All the President’s Men eliminates Rocky
Supporting Actress ’76: Piper Laurie eliminates Beatrice Straight

Picture '77: Annie Hall remains the winner
Director ’77: Steven Spielberg eliminates Woody Allen
Supporting Actor ’77: Jason Robards remains the winner
Supporting Actress ’77: Tuesday Weld eliminates Vanessa Redgrave
Original Score '77: Star Wars remains the winner

Actress '78: Ingrid Bergman eliminates Jane Fonda
Original Screenplay ’78: Autumn Sonata eliminates Coming Home

Picture ’79: All That Jazz eliminates Kramer vs. Kramer
Cinematography ’79: Apocalypse Now remains the winner

Director ’80: David Lynch eliminates Robert Redford
Actor ’80: John Hurt eliminates Robert DeNiro
Supporting Actress ’80: Eileen Brennan eliminates Mary Steenburgen
Adapted Screenplay ’80: The Elephant Man eliminates Ordinary People
Original Score '80: The Elephant Man eliminates Fame

Original Screenplay '81: Atlantic City eliminates Chariots of Fire
Original Score '81: Raiders of the Lost Ark eliminates Chariots of Fire

Picture ’82: E.T. eliminates Gandhi
Actor '82: Jack Lemmon eliminates Ben Kingsley
Original Score ’82: Poltergeist eliminates E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial

Director ’83: Ingmar Bergman eliminates James L. Brooks
Supporting Actor '83: Sam Shepard eliminates Jack Nicholson
Supporting Actress '83: Linda Hunt remains the winner

Actress '84: Judy Davis eliminates Sally Field
Supporting Actor ’84: Haing S. Ngor remains the winner
Supporting Actress '84: Lindsay Crouse eliminates Peggy Ashcroft
Original Song ’84: “Ghostbusters” eliminates “I Just Called to Say I Love You”

Picture '85: Kiss of the Spider Woman eliminates Out of Africa
Original Screenplay ’85: The Official Story eliminates Witness

Original Screenplay '86: My Beautiful Laundrette eliminates Hannah and Her Sisters
Original Score '86: Hoosiers eliminates 'Round Midnight

Director '87: Norman Jewison eliminates Bernardo Bertolucci
Actor '87: Marcello Mastroianni eliminates Michael Douglas
Supporting Actor ’87: Albert Brooks eliminates Sean Connery
Original Screenplay ’87: Radio Days eliminates Moonstruck

Director ’88: Martin Scorsese eliminates Bernardo Bertolucci
Actor '88: Max von Sydow eliminates Dustin Hoffman
Supporting Actress ’88: Geena Davis remains the winner
Original Song ’88: “Let the River Run” remains the winner

Director ’89: Woody Allen eliminates Oliver Stone
Actor ’89: Morgan Freeman eliminates Daniel Day Lewis
Supporting Actress '89: Dianne Wiest eliminates Brenda Fricker
Original Screenplay '89: Do the Right Thing eliminates Dead Poets Society

Actress ’90: Meryl Streep eliminates Kathy Bates
Director '90: Stephen Frears eliminates Kevin Costner
Original Screenplay ’90: Avalon eliminates Ghost

Picture '91: JFK eliminates The Silence of the Lambs
Original Song '91: "Be Our Guest" eliminates "Beauty and the Beast"

Picture ’92: The Crying Game eliminates Unforgiven
Actor ’92: Stephen Rea eliminates Al Pacino
Actress ’92: Susan Sarandon eliminates Emma Thompson
Cinematography ’92: Unforgiven eliminates A River Runs Through It

Picture ’93: The Piano eliminates Schindler’s List

Actor '94: Paul Newman eliminates Tom Hanks
Picture '94: Quiz Show eliminates Forrest Gump
Original Screenplay ’94: Red eliminates Pulp Fiction
Original Score '94: Little Women eliminates The Lion King

Director ’95: Tim Robbins eliminates Mel Gibson
Actor ’95: Sean Penn eliminates Nicolas Cage

Picture '96: Fargo eliminates The English Patient
Actor '96: Woody Harrelson eliminates Geoffrey Rush
Actress ’96: Emily Watson eliminates Frances McDormand
Original Screenplay ’96: Lone Star eliminates Fargo

Actor '97: Robert Duvall eliminates Jack Nicholson
Actress '97: Julie Christie eliminates Helen Hunt
Adapted Screenplay '97: The Sweet Hereafter eliminates L.A. Confidential
Cinematography ’97: L.A. Confidential eliminates Titanic

Director '98: Terence Malick eliminates Steven Spielberg
Actor ’98: Edward Norton eliminates Roberto Benigni
Supporting Actor '98: Robert Duvall eliminates James Coburn
Adapted Screenplay ’98: The Thin Red Line eliminates Gods and Monsters
Original Score '98: The Thin Red Line eliminates Life is Beautiful

Picture '99: American Beauty remains the winner
Actor ’99: Richard Farnsworth eliminates Kevin Spacey
Actress '99: Julianne Moore eliminates the Agent of Satan
Supporting Actress ’99: Toni Collette eliminates Angelina Jolie
Adapted Screenplay ’99: Election eliminates The Cider House Rules
Original Screenplay '99: The Sixth Sense eliminates American Beauty
Cinematography '99: The End of the Affair eliminates American Beauty
Original Score ’99: Angela’s Ashes eliminates The Red Violin

Actor '00: Javier Bardem eliminates Russell Crowe
Film Editing: Traffic remains the winner

Picture ’01: Gosford Park eliminates A Beautiful Mind
Director ’01: Peter Jackson eliminates Ron Howard
Adapted Screenplay '01: Ghost World eliminates A Beautiful Mind
Original Score ’01: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone eliminates LOTR: Fellowship

Picture '02: The Pianist eliminates Chicago
Actress '02: Renée Zelleweger eliminates Nicole Kidman
Cinematography ’02: Far From Heaven eliminates Road to Perdition

Supporting Actor ’03: Tim Robbins remains the winner
Supporting Actress '03: Shoreh Aghdashloo eliminates Renée Zellweger
Original Screenplay ’03: Lost in Translation remains the winner

Picture '04: Million Dollar Baby remains the winner
Actor '04: Clint Eastwood eliminates Jamie Foxx
Actress '04: The Glorious and Great Goddess Known to Mere Mortals as Kate Winslet annihilates the Agent of Satan
Supporting Actor '04: Morgan Freeman remains the winner

Picture '05: Brokeback Mountain eliminates Crash
Director '05: Steven Spielberg eliminates Ang Lee
Actor '05: Heath Ledger eliminates Philip Seymour Hoffman
Cinematography ’05: The New World eliminates Memoirs of a Geisha
Original Score '05: Brokeback Mountain remains the winner

Supporting Actress ’06: Rinko Kikuchi eliminates Jennifer Hudson
Adapted Screenplay '06: Children of Men eliminates The Departed
Editing '06: Children of Men eliminates The Departed

Years not used: 1927-28 to 1931-32; 1934; 1938.

And the current line-up:

Sabin (1 Pass: Film Editing '00)
Flipp (1 Pass: Original Song ’88)
Italiano (1 Pass: Supporting Actress '83)
Penelope (2 Passes: Supporting Actress ’68; Cinematography ’78)
Cinemanolis (1 Pass: Picture '99)
rudeboy (1 Pass: Director ’52)
Harry Goldfarb
Original BJ (2 Passes: Supporting Actor ’03, Picture '77)
FilmFan720 (1 Pass: Picture '55)
OscarGuy (1 Pass: Cinematography ’79)
MovieWes
Zahveed (2 Passes: Supporting Actress ’88; Original Score ’05)
dws1982 (2 Pass: Director ’46, Picture '04)
Akash (1 Pass: Supporting Actress ’69)*Temporarily out of the game
Okri (3 Passes: Supporting ’77; Picture ’43, Actress '58)
Eric (1 Pass: Original Screenplay ’03)
Bog (2 Passes: Actor ’62; Cinematography ’75)
RainBard (2 Passes: Supporting Actor ’84; Original Score ’77)




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Postby OscarGuy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:55 pm

I think Penelope should start the ball rolling to show you how it's done.

Penelope, your category is Best Supporting Actor 1987 (year used is the year of the film's release, not the year of the Oscar telecast).

For your ease of reference, here's a link to the list of 1987 nominees:

60th Academy Awards for 1987

p.s. I selected that year completely randomly... :)




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Postby Zahveed » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:28 pm

How should it start off? I'm still a little hazy on the rules, even though it sounds simple enough. I guess I just need to see it in play to understand it a little better.
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Postby OscarGuy » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:24 am

Because I thought it had merit and was lost in the shuffle of the other thread, here's his idea again for discussion and possible implementation.

Here's how The Oscar Elimination Game could work:

The first player, say, me, selects an Oscar category from a particular year (any year that I choose) and replaces the winner with one of the other nominees; then that category from that year is out of contention; I assign the category/year for the next player, who eliminates the winner and replaces that person (or persons) with one of the other nominees; and so on, until all categories/years are changed.

For example, say I choose Best Actress 2004: I eliminate Hilary Swank and replace her with Kate Winslet; then that category for that year is out of contention; the next player is Damien, and I select Best Supporting Actress 1995 for him to eliminate the winner; he eliminates Mira Sorvino and replaces her with Kate Winslet, and so that category for that year is out of play; the next player is Italiano and Damien selects Best Actress 2006 for him to eliminate the winner; Italiano eliminates Helen Mirren and replaces her with Kate Winslet; etc., etc.

Obviously, there will be categories where we don't want to eliminate the winner, so each player has 3 passes--the winner remains the winner and that category/year is out of contention; but, once those three passes are used, the player must eliminate the winner and select a choice from one of the other nominees; thus, if you must eliminate Casablanca, then, sorry, you must.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
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