Last Seen Movie - The Latest Movie You Have Seen; ratings

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Postby The Original BJ » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:43 pm

Since this has turned into the when-did-you-first-see-The-Cobweb thread...

I saw it in a film school class, and it was quite the kick to watch something that insane in a context where much of what we watched were official classics of cinema.

I can clearly remember running into my professor before class the next week and having him ask me what I thought of the movie, and I just gave him a deer-in-the-headlights look.

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Postby Okri » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:42 pm

It's on iTunes.

I know cause I totally rented it. Sounds... unique.

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Postby Mister Tee » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:28 pm

Precious Doll wrote:Speaking of The Cobweb anyone who hasn't seen it should really track it down. It remains one of the most bizarre films every made by a major studio and with an all-star cast to die for. Someone at MGM must have had a bad cold when they green-lit it and I'm eternally grateful to them for the crazy loopy joyride that emerged. :mrgreen:

Here is the synopsis of sorts from imdb. The film has to be seen to be believed:

At an exclusive psychiatric clinic, the doctors and staff are about as crazy as the patients. The clinic head, Dr. Stewart McIver, thinks that it would be good therapy for his patients to design and make new drapes for the library. Mrs. Karen McIver, who is neglected by her hardworking husband (and a bit unbalanced herself), wants to make her mark on the clinic, so she orders new drapes. Miss Inch, the business manager, who has been with the clinic longer than anyone, sees this as an intrusion into her territory, and she too orders drapes. All this puts everyone in a dither, as they fight over drapes and clinic politics.

I watched the movie for the first time in the past year, and, yes, this is a hilariously accurate plot description.

Whatever you can say about contemporary Hollywood, I think it's safe to say "A bunch of people in a loony bin go to war over new drapes" wouldn't get past the pitch meeting.

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Postby Precious Doll » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:39 am

Big Magilla wrote:That must be some cold. Minnelli never made a film called The Web, but he did, of course, make The Cobweb the following year.

The irony is that Cukor making his first widescreen film proved an early master of the process that Minnelli would soon be considered the greatest master of. Both made all types of films. Minnelli's 1954 release was also his first widescreen film, albeit a somewhat disappointing one given the cheesy studio backdrop he was forced to work in on Brigadoon, the first of the Lerner-Loewe musicals to be filmed. Minnelli would later win his only Oscar for directing the original Lerner & Loewe musical, Gigi and Cukor would later win his only Oscar for directing Lerner & Loewe's My Fair Lady so confusing the two is understandable, especially when one has a bad cold!


Yes, I did mean The Cobweb. Must say that I have been making a fast recovery from the wretched cold.

Speaking of The Cobweb anyone who hasn't seen it should really track it down. It remains one of the most bizarre films every made by a major studio and with an all-star cast to die for. Someone at MGM must have had a bad cold when they green-lit it and I'm eternally grateful to them for the crazy loopy joyride that emerged. :mrgreen:

Here is the synopsis of sorts from imdb. The film has to be seen to be believed:

At an exclusive psychiatric clinic, the doctors and staff are about as crazy as the patients. The clinic head, Dr. Stewart McIver, thinks that it would be good therapy for his patients to design and make new drapes for the library. Mrs. Karen McIver, who is neglected by her hardworking husband (and a bit unbalanced herself), wants to make her mark on the clinic, so she orders new drapes. Miss Inch, the business manager, who has been with the clinic longer than anyone, sees this as an intrusion into her territory, and she too orders drapes. All this puts everyone in a dither, as they fight over drapes and clinic politics.
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Postby Big Magilla » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:43 am

Precious Doll wrote:
ITALIANO wrote:It was Cukor, as of course you know.


Golly, that was foolish of me given that Cukor & Minnelli are worlds apart as directors and during that period Minnelli was making a whole lot of luridly entertaining films with The Web probably being the pinnacle and in which A Star is Born does not fit into.

My only excuse apart from the close relationship between Garland & Minnelli was what I wrote was very late last night having taken an obscene dose of sleeping pills as I'm battling a bad cold. Thankfully I've made a speedy recovery and am currently enjoyed a couple of gin & tonics which I find as one of the best treatments for a cold.


That must be some cold. Minnelli never made a film called The Web, but he did, of course, make The Cobweb the following year.

The irony is that Cukor making his first widescreen film proved an early master of the process that Minnelli would soon be considered the greatest master of. Both made all types of films. Minnelli's 1954 release was also his first widescreen film, albeit a somewhat disappointing one given the cheesy studio backdrop he was forced to work in on Brigadoon, the first of the Lerner-Loewe musicals to be filmed. Minnelli would later win his only Oscar for directing the original Lerner & Loewe musical, Gigi and Cukor would later win his only Oscar for directing Lerner & Loewe's My Fair Lady so confusing the two is understandable, especially when one has a bad cold!
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Postby Reza » Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:17 am

Fazil (Howard Hawks, 1928) 7/10

Miscegenation gets a workout in this exotic love story between Arab royalty (Charles Farrell) and a lovely french girl (Greta Nissen). The Prince, on a visit to Venice, lays eyes on the girl and is instantly smitten. Charmed by his exotic looks and attention she gets married to him. To her horror she finds out that back in Arabia she has to toe the line, is treated like his possession and has to compete with his harem of women. With American censors always in a tizzy over couplings between different races it is but obvious how the outcome of the relationship is going to be. The film soars in the sequence set in Venice as their tender love story plays out on huge sets with Nissen a charming presence as the lady with a strong mind of her own. The scenes set in Arabia are laughably bad with the screenplay going into overdrive trying to show the racist mentality of the Arabs with little attention to any proper homework on part of the studio - old Hollywood always got it wrong showing a Muslim praying which here consists of the person repeatedly bowing down. And harems in the Middle East never had women dressed in skimpy outfits although Hollywood liked showing a lot of skin. Farrell is stiff throughout playing what is basically a clone of Valentino's "Sheik". Hawks superbly handles the romantic aspect of the plot and the film's production values are impeccable throughout with outstanding sets and costumes. Interesting silent film (with a song thrown into the mix) is a relic from Hollywood's golden era but holds interest throughout.

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Postby Reza » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:02 am

College Swing (Raoul Walsh, 1938) 5/10

Silly vaudeville routines interspersed with song, dance and comic sequences played by a mostly delightful cast. The jokes come fast and furious with many falling flat but a few involving Gracie Allen (as a dimwit student at college trying to pass an exam to inherit the place) and others - George Burns, Bob Hope and Martha Raye, which click. The musical sequences involve John Payne romancing Florence George and a brief bouncy appearance by Betty Grable. Both Raye and Fields get to sing most of the songs and have standout comic moments. But it's all rather silly and only worth watching to see most of these stars in their early film appearances.

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Postby Reza » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:02 am

Springtime in the Rockies (Irving Cummings, 1942) 7/10

Typically upbeat and colourful Fox musical with a whiff of a plot - an estranged couple (John Payne & Betty Grable) try to make each other jealous by pretending to be involved with debonair Cesar Romero and a bouncy, over-the-top Carmen Miranda. Set at a resort in the Rockies (all painted backdrops) the entire cast converges singing and dancing to the music of Harry James and Count Basie. Charming froth is stolen by old reliables - droll Edward Everett Horton and whacky Charlotte Greenwood. Great fun with one outstanding dance performed by Romero and Grable not unlike Astaire and Rogers. Miranda manages to upstage the two leads with her crazy antics although both Payne and Grable make a very handsome couple on screen.

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Postby Reza » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:01 am

Three Identical Strangers (Tim Wardle, 2018) 8/10

Bizarre but incredible true story about three strangers who discover they are identical triplets who were separated at birth 19-years before. The boys, when reunited, became a media sensation during the 1980s with tv appearances and even going into the restaurant business. This riveting documentary starts off like a joyous sitcom and gradually turns into something very sinister, disturbing and tragic as the brothers discover why they were separated by the jewish adoption agency at the behest of a psychologist as they became his subjects under a controversial study which today remains unpublished and locked up at Yale university. The film builds on the story piece by piece through interviews with relatives, staff who worked with the psychologist and the brothers themselves leading up to its shocking but inconclusive ending which hints somewhat at Nazi physician Josef Mengele and his experiments at Auschwitz. The irony of it all is appalling considering the psychologist was a Holocaust survivor. A gripping but disturbing documentary.

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Postby Reza » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:01 am

Illegal Entry (Frederick De Cordova, 1949) 5/10

Good cast in dull crime programmer with noir overtones courtesy of William Daniels' shadowy cinematography. The chief of the Immigration bureau (George Brent) has a former pilot (Howard Duff) go undercover to investigate human trafficking in Los Angeles. His lead is the beautiful widow (Mårta Torén) of his dead army buddy who may or may not be involved with the smugglers. Gruff Duff and lovely Torén make an appealing couple although its pretty stale stuff.

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Postby Precious Doll » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:17 am

ITALIANO wrote:
It was Cukor, as of course you know.



Golly, that was foolish of me given that Cukor & Minnelli are worlds apart as directors and during that period Minnelli was making a whole lot of luridly entertaining films with The Web probably being the pinnacle and in which A Star is Born does not fit into.

My only excuse apart from the close relationship between Garland & Minnelli was what I wrote was very late last night having taken an obscene dose of sleeping pills as I'm battling a bad cold. Thankfully I've made a speedy recovery and am currently enjoyed a couple of gin & tonics which I find as one of the best treatments for a cold.
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Postby ITALIANO » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:24 pm

Big Magilla wrote:
ITALIANO wrote:It's an American association. But even if they were Italian, whores are everywhere, Big Magilla. The problem is being a whore and not being paid for the job... Lady Gaga's acting "sublime"? :D Not even her press agent would say that, come on :)


I said she herself was sublime which means "of such excellence, grandeur, or beauty as to inspire great admiration or awe" - I said her acting was "strong" but what made the performance sublime was her way of putting across a song.

Here's my actual comment, which comes after my somewhat mixed assessment of the film and her co-star:

"Lady Gaga, though, is sublime throughout. Her acting is strong and no contemporary singer can put a song across in a way that is as pleasing to fans of any and all musical genres as she can. I think it's safe to say that her Oscar nomination is in the bag, though a win may be a bit of a stretch."


Oh ok. Well you still liked her acting alot. Which by the way isn't a crime :)
But unlike the young film critics (and fans) who treat her with the same kind of blind admiration once reserved for Eleonora Duse, my point is that you should know better. Just this.

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Postby Big Magilla » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:35 pm

ITALIANO wrote:It's an American association. But even if they were Italian, whores are everywhere, Big Magilla. The problem is being a whore and not being paid for the job... Lady Gaga's acting "sublime"? :D Not even her press agent would say that, come on :)


I said she herself was sublime which means "of such excellence, grandeur, or beauty as to inspire great admiration or awe" - I said her acting was "strong" but what made the performance sublime was her way of putting across a song.

Here's my actual comment, which comes after my somewhat mixed assessment of the film and her co-star:

"Lady Gaga, though, is sublime throughout. Her acting is strong and no contemporary singer can put a song across in a way that is as pleasing to fans of any and all musical genres as she can. I think it's safe to say that her Oscar nomination is in the bag, though a win may be a bit of a stretch."
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Postby ITALIANO » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:48 am

Big Magilla wrote:Funny, but the only award the film has won so far was in ITALY!!!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517451/aw ... tt_ql_op_1

Venice Film Festival 2018
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Collateral Award
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It's an American association. But even if they were Italian, whores are everywhere, Big Magilla. The problem is being a whore and not being paid for the job... Lady Gaga's acting "sublime"? :D Not even her press agent would say that, come on :)

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Postby Big Magilla » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:34 am

Funny, but the only award the film has won so far was in ITALY!!!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517451/aw ... tt_ql_op_1

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