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Reza wrote:
ITALIANO wrote:I was shocked, too. But I guess this board is mostly for lovers of American cinema (and in some ways of America itself).

I've never done these lists. But if I did, I guess that maybe only almost 1/4 of MY winners would be from English-language movies (which is alot, considering that it's only TWO countries).
Marco now I'm very curious to see all the foreign actors on your list.

Ditto Uri.

Ah but some wouldn't be foreign - Italian actors would be on the list, too. :wink:

I'm not patient enough, I'm afraid - these things just aren't for me. But I guess that any serious Best Actor list should include, in no particular order, Marcello Mastroianni, Max Von Sydow, Toshiro Mifune, Toto', Jean Gabin, Gerard Philipe, Jean Louis Trintignant, Fernando Rey, Gian Maria Volonte', Jean Louis Trintignant, Giancarlo Giannini, Ugo Tognazzi, Philippe Noiret, Javier Bardem, Innokenty Smoktunovsky, Michel Serrault, Erland Josephson, Klaus Maria Brandauer, so many others.
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ITALIANO wrote:I was shocked, too. But I guess this board is mostly for lovers of American cinema (and in some ways of America itself).

I've never done these lists. But if I did, I guess that maybe only almost 1/4 of MY winners would be from English-language movies (which is alot, considering that it's only TWO countries).
Marco now I'm very curious to see all the foreign actors on your list.

Ditto Uri.
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Uri wrote:
Cinemanolis wrote: 1961 Marcelo Mastroianni – La Dolce Vita
1990 Gerard Depardieu – Cyrano De Bergerac
Really? Are these the only non English speaking performances in 80 years to be considered the best of their given year?
Actually with Ulrich Muhe it's 3, but that doesn't make it any better. I can certainly see you and italianos point. I checked my Actress Shouldhavebeens list where things for "foreign" language performances are a little bit better (8) and then i checked my Best Director Shouldabeens where things are lot better with 24 out of 68 winners are directors of "foreign" language films. I suppose what make the difference for me (even without realizing it) is that i connect better with a performance in a language i understand. I can appreciate every pause and intonation that i can't appreciate in other language, even when they are in french or german which to a much lesser extend (i used) to understand. A big role to the presence of so many english language performances and films in everyone's lists is the fact that these films are much more accessible and easier to track down and see than "foreign" films. Of course in this area things are 300% better than they used to be in 1995, but still for me some english language films and performances that i watched in my teens that impressed and influenced me are not easy to surpass not always because of their superior quality but also for sentimental reasons.
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I was shocked, too. But I guess this board is mostly for lovers of American cinema (and in some ways of America itself).

I've never done these lists. But if I did, I guess that maybe only almost 1/4 of MY winners would be from English-language movies (which is alot, considering that it's only TWO countries).
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ksrymy wrote: 1930 Emil Jannings, The Blue Angel (2)
1931 Peter Lorre, M
1952 Takashi Shimura, Ikiru
1953 Charles Vanel, The Wages of Fear
1955 Henrik Malberg, Ordet
1957 Victor Sjöström, Wild Strawberries
1964 Eiji Okada, Woman in the Dunes
2004 Javier Bardem, The Sea Inside (2)
2006 Ulrich Mühe, The Lives of Others
Slightly better, but only just. Again - are these the only non English speaking performances to be considered the best of their given year? 9 out of 87?
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Cinemanolis wrote: 1961 Marcelo Mastroianni – La Dolce Vita
1990 Gerard Depardieu – Cyrano De Bergerac
Really? Are these the only non English speaking performances in 80 years to be considered the best of their given year?
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1935 Victor McLaglen – The Informer
1936 Walter Huston - Dodsworth
1937 Fredric March – A Star Is Born
1938 James Cagney – Angels with Dirty Faces
1939 Clark Gable – Gone with the Wind
1940 Cary Grant –His Girl Friday
1941 Orson Welles – Citizen Kane
1942 Monty Woolley – The Man Who Came to Diner
1943 Humphrey Bogart - Casablanca
1944 Cary Grant – None But the Lonely Heart (2)
1945 Ray Milland – The Lost Weekend
1946 James Stewart – It’s a Wonderful Life
1947 Ronald Colman – A Double Life
1948 Laurence Olivier - Hamlet
1949 Broderick Crawford – All the King’s Men
1950 William Holden – Sunset Boulevard
1951 Marlon Brando – A Streetcar Named Desire
1952 Laurence Olivier – Carrie (2)
1953 Montgomery Clift – From Here to Eternity
1954 Marlon Brando – On the Waterfront (2)
1955 James Dean – East of Eden
1956 Yul Brynner – The King and I
1957 Charles Laughton – Witness for the Prosecution
1958 Paul Newman – Cat on a Hot Tin Roof
1959 Jack Lemmon – Some Like It Hot
1960 Jack Lemmon – The Apartment (2)
1961 Marcelo Mastroianni – La Dolce Vita
1962 Paul Newman – Sweet Bird of Youth (2)
1963 Paul Newman – Hud (3)
1964 Anthony Quinn – Zorba the Greek
1965 Oskar Werner – The Ship of Fools
1966 Richard Burton – Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
1967 Dustin Hoffman – The Graduate
1968 Peter Sellers – The Party
1969 Jon Voight – Coming Home
1970 Alan Bates – Women In Love
1971 Peter Finch – Sunday Bloody Sunday
1972 Marlon Brando – The Godfather (3)
1973 Al Pacino - Seprico
1974 Alan Bates – Butley (2)
1975 Jack Nicholson – One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
1976 Robert De Niro – Taxi Driver
1977 John Gielgud - Providence
1978 Robert De Niro – The Deer Hunter (2)
1979 Dustin Hoffman – Kramer Vs Kramer (2)
1980 Robert De Niro – Raging Bull (3)
1981 Burt Lancaster – Atlantic City
1982 Dustin Hoffman – Tootsie (3)
1983 Albert Finney – The Dresser
1984 Albert Finney – Under the Volcano (2)
1985 William Hurt – Kiss of the Spider Woman
1986 Bob Hoskins – Mona Lisa
1987 Richard E. Grant – Withnail and I
1988 John Malkovich – Dangerous Liaisons
1989 Daniel Day Lewis – My left Foot
1990 Gerard Depardieu – Cyrano De Bergerac
1991 Nick Nolte – The Prince of Tides
1992 Jack Lemmon – Glengarry Glen Ross (3)
1993 Liam Neeson – Schindler’s List
1994 Tom Hanks – Forrest Gump
1995 Sean Penn – Dead Man Walking
1996 Ralph Fiennes – The English Patient
1997 Robert Duvall – The Apostle
1998 Ian McKellen – Gods and Monsters
1999 Kevin Spacey – American Beauty
2000 Mark Ruffalo – You Can Count on Me
2001 Russell Crowe – A Beautiful Mind
2002 Jack Nicholson – About Schmidt (2)
2003 Sean Penn – 21 Grams (2)
2004 Paul Giamatti – Sideways
2005 Heath Ledger – Brokeback Mountain
2006 Ulrich Muhe – The Lives of Others
2007 Daniel Day Lewis – There Will Be Blood (2)
2008 Sean Penn – Milk (3)
2009 Colin Firth – A Single Man
2010 Ryan Gosling – Blue Valentine
2011 Michael Fassbender - Shame
2012 Daniel Day Lewis – Lincoln (3)
2013 Leonardo Di Caprio – The Wolf of Wall Street
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1910 Charles Ogle, Frankenstein
1911 Max Linder, Max Takes Tonics
1912 Elmer Booth, The Musketeers of Pig Alley
1913 René Navarre, Fantômas
1914 Henry B. Walthall, The Avenging Conscience: or "Thou Shalt Not Kill"
1915 George Beban, The Italian
1916 William S. Hart, Hell's Hinges
1917 Elliott Dexter, A Romance of the Redwoods
1918 Victor Sjöström, The Outlaw and His Wife
1919 Conrad Veidt, Different from the Others
1920 John Barrymore, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
1921 Rudolph Valentino, The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
1922 Erich von Stroheim, Foolish Wives
1923 Lon Chaney, The Hunchback of Notre Dame
1924 Lon Chaney, He Who Gets Slapped (2)
1925 John Gilbert, The Merry Widow
1926 Charley Chase, Mighty Like a Moose
1927 Lon Chaney, The Unknown (3)
1928 James Murray, The Crowd
1929 Uno Henning, A Cottage on Dartmoor
1930 Emil Jannings, The Blue Angel
1931 Robert Williams, Platinum Blonde
1932 Paul Muni, I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang
1933 Spencer Tracy, Man's Castle
1934 John Barrymore, Twentieth Century (2)
1935 Charles Laughton, Ruggles of Red Gap
1936 Walter Huston, Dodsworth
1937 Jean Gabin, Pépé le Moko
1938 Jean Gabin, Port of Shadows (2)
1939 James Stewart, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
1940 Henry Fonda, The Grapes of Wrath
1941 Gary Cooper, Meet John Doe
1942 Humphrey Bogart, Casablanca
1943 Roger Livesey, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
1944 Laurence Olivier, Henry V
1945 Jean-Louis Barrault, Children of Paradise
1946 James Stewart, It’s a Wonderful Life (2)
1947 John Garfield, Body and Soul
1948 Joseph Cotten, Portrait of Jennie
1949 John Wayne, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
1950 William Holden, Sunset Boulevard
1951 Robert Walker, Strangers on a Train
1952 Takashi Shimura, Ikiru
1953 Vittorio Gassman, The Glass Wall
1954 James Mason, A Star Is Born
1955 Henrik Malberg, Ordet
1956 James Mason, Bigger Than Life (2)
1957 Victor Sjöström, Wild Strawberries (2)
1958 Chhabi Biswas, The Music Room
1959 Jack Lemmon, Some Like It Hot
1960 Jack Lemmon, The Apartment (2)
1961 Paul Newman, The Hustler
1962 Vittorio Gassman, Il sorpasso (2)
1963 Paul Newman, Hud (2)
1964 Eiji Okada, Woman in the Dunes
1965 Richard Burton, The Spy Who Came in From the Cold
1966 Richard Burton, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (2)
1967 José Luis López Vázquez, Peppermint Frappé
1968 Peter O’Toole, The Lion in Winter
1969 Jon Voight, Midnight Cowboy
1970 Yves Montand, The Confession
1971 Dirk Bogarde, Death in Venice
1972 Laurence Olivier, Sleuth (2)
1973 Donald Sutherland, Don't Look Now
1974 Gene Wilder, Young Frankenstein
1975 Al Pacino, Dog Day Afternoon
1976 William Holden, Network (2)
1977 John Gielgud, Providence
1978 Volker Spengler, In a Year of 13 Moons
1979 Roy Scheider, All That Jazz
1980 Robert De Niro, Raging Bull
1981 Klaus Maria Brandauer, Mephisto
1982 Dustin Hoffman, Tootsie
1983 Erwin Leder, Angst
1984 F. Murray Abraham, Amadeus
1985 William Hurt, Kiss of the Spider Woman
1986 Erland Josephson, The Sacrifice
1987 Bruno Ganz, Wings of Desire
1988 Jeremy Irons, Dead Ringers
1989 Daniel Day-Lewis, My Left Foot
1990 Michael Rooker, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
1991 Anthony Hopkins, The Silence of the Lambs
1992 Jack Lemmon, Glengarry Glen Ross (3)
1993 Anthony Hopkins, The Remains of the Day (2)
1994 Mihály Víg, Sátántangó
1995 Anthony Hopkins, Nixon (3)
1996 Ralph Fiennes, The English Patient
1997 Ian Holm, The Sweet Hereafter
1998 Ian McKellen, Gods and Monsters
1999 Denis Lavant, Beau Travail
2000 Tony Leung, In the Mood for Love
2001 Tom Wilkinson, In the Bedroom
2002 Michael Caine, The Quiet American
2003 Hossain Emadeddin, Crimson Gold
2004 Javier Bardem, The Sea Inside
2005 Tommy Lee Jones, The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
2006 Ulrich Mühe, The Lives of Others
2007 Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will Be Blood (2)
2008 Colin Farrell, In Bruges
2009 Colin Firth, A Single Man
2010 Jesse Eisenberg, The Social Network
2011 Gary Oldman, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
2012 Joaquin Phoenix, The Master
2013 Joaquin Phoenix, Her (2)
2014 Jake Gyllenhaal, Nightcrawler
2015 Michael Caine, Youth (2)
2016 Casey Affleck, Manchester by the Sea
2017 Timothée Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
2018 Ethan Hawke, First Reformed
2019 Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory
2020 Anthony Hopkins, The Father (4)
2021 Simon Rex, Red Rocket
2022 Colin Farrell, The Banshees of Inisherin (2)
2023 Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers

Multiple winners
Anthony Hopkins - 4
Lon Chaney, Jack Lemmon - 3
John Barrymore, Jean Gabin, James Stewart, James Mason, Victor Sjöström, Vittorio Gassman, Paul Newman, Richard Burton, Laurence Olivier, William Holden, Daniel Day-Lewis, Joaquin Phoenix, Michael Caine, Colin Farrell - 2
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dws1982 wrote:1975: ?
Weirdly enough, 1975 is one of the few years I could pick a winner with 100 percent confidence. I could do so knowing that that no amount of other performances of the same year which remain unseen by me could possibly change my mind.

This year belongs to Tim Curry.
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1924 Douglas Fairbanks, The Thief of Bagdad
1925 Ramon Novarro, Ben-Hur
1926 John Gilbert, Flesh and the Devil
1927 George O'Brien, Sunrise
1928 Emil Jannings, The Last Command
1929 George Arliss, Disraeli
1930 Lew Ayres, All Quiet on the Western Front
1931 Edward G. Robinson, Little Caesar
1932 Paul Muni, Scarface
1933 Charles Laughton, The Private Life of Henry VIII
1934 John Barrymore, Twentieth Century
1935 Fred Astaire, Top Hat
1936 Walter Huston, Dodsworth
1937 Jean Gabin, Pepe Le Moko
1938 Errol Flynn, The Adventures of Robin Hood
1939 Clark Gable, Gone With the Wind
1940 Cary Grant, His Girl Friday
1941 Humphrey Bogart, The Maltese Falcon
1942 Humphrey Bogart, Casablanca
1943 Joseph Cotten, Shadow of a Doubt
1944 Laurence Olivier, Henry V
1945 Ray Milland, The Lost Weekend
1946 James Stewart, It’s a Wonderful Life
1947 Tyrone Power, Nightmare Alley
1948 Laurence Olivier, Hamlet
1949 Broderick Crawford, All the King's Men
1950 Spencer Tracy, Father of the Bride
1951 Marlon Brando, A Streetcar Named Desire
1952 Kirk Douglas, The Bad and the Beautiful
1953 Montgomery Clift, I Confess
1954 Marlon Brando, On the Waterfront
1955 James Dean, East of Eden
1956 John Wayne, The Searchers
1957 Alec Guinness, The Bridge on the River Kwai
1958 James Stewart, Vertigo
1959 Jack Lemmon, Some Like It Hot
1960 Peter Finch, The Trials of Oscar Wilde
1961 Paul Newman, The Hustler
1962 Gregory Peck, To Kill a Mockingbird
1963 Marcello Mastroianni, 8 1/2
1964 Rex Harrison, My Fair Lady
1965 Richard Burton, The Spy Who Came In From the Cold
1966 Paul Scofield, A Man for All Seasons
1967 Rod Steiger, In the Heat of the Night
1968 Peter O’Toole, The Lion in Winter
1969 Dustin Hoffman, Midnight Cowboy
1970 Robert Mitchum, Ryan's Daughter
1971 Gene Hackman, The French Connection
1972 Al Pacino, The Godfather
1973 Sean Connery, The Offence
1974 Jack Nicholson, Chinatown
1975 Jack Nicholson, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
1976 William Holden, Network
1977 John Gielgud, Providence
1978 Jon Voight, Coming Home
1979 Peter Sellers, Being There
1980 Robert De Niro, Raging Bull
1981 Henry Fonda, On Golden Pond
1982 Ben Kingsley, Gandhi
1983 Eric Roberts, Star 80
1984 Albert Finney, Under the Volcano
1985 James Garner, Murphy's Romance
1986 Bob Hoskins, Mona Lisa
1987 Steve Martin, Roxanne
1988 Robert De Niro, Midnight Run
1989 Daniel Day-Lewis, My Left Foot
1990 Jeremy Irons, Reversal of Fortune
1991 Warren Beatty, Bugsy
1992 Denzel Washington, Malcolm X
1993 Jeff Bridges, Fearless
1994 Hugh Grant, Four Weddings and a Funeral
1995 Nicolas Cage, Leaving Las Vegas
1996 Dennis Hopper, Carried Away
1997 Jack Nicholson, As Good As It Gets
1998 Ian McKellen, Gods and Monsters
1999 Richard Farnsworth, The Straight Story
2000 Christian Bale, American Psycho
2001 Tom Wilkinson, In the Bedroom
2002 Michael Caine, The Quiet American
2003 Sean Penn, Mystic River
2004 Liam Neeson, Kinsey
2005 Heath Ledger, Brokeback Mountain
2006 Ulrich Mühe, The Lives of Others
2007 Tommy Lee Jones, In the Valley of Elah
2008 Mickey Rourke, The Wrestler
2009 George Clooney, Up In the Air
2010 Colin Firth, The King's Speech
2011 Gary Oldman, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
2012 Jean-Louis Trintignant, Amour
2013 Bruce Dern, Nebraska
2014 Michael Keaton, Birdman
2015 Michael Caine, Youth
2016 Casey Affleck, Manchester by the Sea
2017 Timothée Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
2018 Ethan Hawke, First Reformed
2019 Joaquin Phoenix, Joker
2020 Riz Ahmed, Sound of Metal
2021 Benedict Cumberbatch, The Power of the Dog
2022: Colin Farrel, The Banshees of Inisheren
2023: Jeffrey Wright, American Fiction
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--flipp525 wrote:Excellent list, Precious Doll! I think your choices show a lot of good taste. I'll be checking out several of these on your recommendation.

Kudos on the Joseph Gordon-Levitt citation. Although, I would've give it to Ledger that year, G-L's performance in Mysterious Skin is superb.

Thanks Flipp, Damien & Bog.

Ledger & Gordon-Levitt was a hard choice to make. A tie would not be out of the question.

I've updated my list for 2007 & 2008, perhaps prematurely as I have not seen Milk or The Wrestler yet.




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Excellent list, Precious Doll! I think your choices show a lot of good taste. I'll be checking out several of these on your recommendation.

Kudos on the Joseph Gordon-Levitt citation. Although, I would've given it to Ledger that year, G-L's performance in Mysterious Skin is superb.




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