You're the only one I've ever heard argue that Vanessa Redgrave gives a lead-qualifying performance in Julia. Jane Fonda is very clearly the lead throughout the film.Reza wrote:But do you really think Redgrave's screen time in Julia warranted a placement in the lead category? When you compare the screentime of both Fonda and Redgrave it is quite clear that they both received their nominations in the correct category. The Roz Russell (Picnic) ruling was no longer in effect by the time Julia was released.Big Magilla wrote:Redgrave is wonderful in Julia but she plays the title character, received star billing and dominates all her scenes. Hers is not a true supporting performance in my estimation.
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I agree that Redgrave was placed in the proper category given the strong competition for lead actress in 1977 and the rather weak competition in the supporting category, but it's a borderline lead/supporting performance. Comparing apples to apples, the others, with the exception of Eva Marie Saint and Joan Allen, who were also borderline lead/supporting, are true supporting players. They were not given star billing in their films. They did not sell tickets on their names, but managed to stand out, and in some cases, steal their films from the actual leads through sheer force of personality and performance.Reza wrote:But do you really think Redgrave's screen time in Julia warranted a placement in the lead category? When you compare the screentime of both Fonda and Redgrave it is quite clear that they both received their nominations in the correct category. The Roz Russell (Picnic) ruling was no longer in effect by the time Julia was released.Big Magilla wrote:Redgrave is wonderful in Julia but she plays the title character, received star billing and dominates all her scenes. Hers is not a true supporting performance in my estimation.
Big Magilla wrote:Redgrave is wonderful in Julia but she plays the title character, received star billing and dominates all her scenes. Hers is not a true supporting performance in my estimation.
But do you really think Redgrave's screen time in Julia warranted a placement in the lead category? When you compare the screentime of both Fonda and Redgrave it is quite clear that they both received their nominations in the correct category. The Roz Russell (Picnic) ruling was no longer in effect by the time Julia was released.
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Well, not all supporting nominees can have as little screen time as Casey Affleck. (I kid, I kid.)Big Magilla wrote:Redgrave is wonderful in Julia but she plays the title character, received star billing and dominates all her scenes. Hers is not a true supporting performance in my estimation.
A two-way race for me between Moorehead and Lansbury. I could've gone either way. Today I picked Moorehead.
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I have to go with Lansbury. Her performance in The Manchurian Candidate is amazing and I consider it one of the most disappointing losses in Oscar history.
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For those of you who want something to do while awaiting the start of the Best Actor polls next week, here's a little survey based on our individual poll results.
Looking at the top vote getters by decade (there was a tie in the 1950s voting), please indicate who you think gave the best overall supporting performance.
For me it's a three way race between Moorehead, Ritter and Lansbury.
McDaniel was a worthy winner, but I wonder if she would have come in quite as high as she did if she were up against Margaret Hamilton in The Wizard of Oz.
Redgrave is wonderful in Julia but she plays the title character, received star billing and dominates all her scenes. Hers is not a true supporting performance in my estimation.
Wiest was fine in Hannah and Her Sisters, but Maggie Smith in A Room With a View was my choice that year.
Joan Allen and Shoreh Aghdashloo won in years where the competition was weak.
So back to Moorehead, Ritter and Lansbury. Ritter made a good movie better, Lansbury created one of the most indelible screen characters of all time, but Moorehead was the standout in a landmark film. She gets my vote.
Looking at the top vote getters by decade (there was a tie in the 1950s voting), please indicate who you think gave the best overall supporting performance.
For me it's a three way race between Moorehead, Ritter and Lansbury.
McDaniel was a worthy winner, but I wonder if she would have come in quite as high as she did if she were up against Margaret Hamilton in The Wizard of Oz.
Redgrave is wonderful in Julia but she plays the title character, received star billing and dominates all her scenes. Hers is not a true supporting performance in my estimation.
Wiest was fine in Hannah and Her Sisters, but Maggie Smith in A Room With a View was my choice that year.
Joan Allen and Shoreh Aghdashloo won in years where the competition was weak.
So back to Moorehead, Ritter and Lansbury. Ritter made a good movie better, Lansbury created one of the most indelible screen characters of all time, but Moorehead was the standout in a landmark film. She gets my vote.