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--Eric wrote:
--dws1982 wrote:(These are all supporting actress, because the site I've used--the only site I know that clocks any nominated performances at all--only clocks supporting actress.)

Which site is this? I have to admit I'm a little bit of a sucker for supporting actress taxonomy now, thanks to the StinkyLulu site.

Stinkylulu's site was the one I was using. He's gone through several years now. I do wish someone would so similar things with Supporting Actor, for comparison's sake if nothing else.

She wasn't nominated for The Letter. But I do remenber being startled by the brevity and non-histrionics of her nominated performance in Anna and the King of Siam.

You're right, of course. Not sure why he elected to profile her performance out of all the ones available that year.




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dws1982 wrote:(These are all supporting actress, because the site I've used--the only site I know that clocks any nominated performances at all--only clocks supporting actress.)
Which site is this? I have to admit I'm a little bit of a sucker for supporting actress taxonomy now, thanks to the StinkyLulu site.
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I have Room at the Top on DVD and checked Hermione Baddeley's screen time:
1 min:27 sec - Strong scene with her telling Laurence Harvey that he must treat roommate Simone Signoret nice.
0:20 - Ordinary scene
0:40 - Her big scene screaming at Harvey after Signoret's death
0:05 - Reaction shot of her at Signoret's funeral.

I don't believe there's a shorter nominated performance.

I agree that many of the to-be-checked performances are long enough not to be concerned about. I still would like to see how long Martin Balsam's winning supporting performance in A Thousand Clowns is.

As far as briefest lead award performances, it seems that Hopkins role is always mentioned as the briefest. I'd like to check Luise Rainer's screen time in The Great Ziegfeld. I know it was primarily for her telephone scene with William Powell, but don't recall how many other scenes she was in. The movie itself is nearly three hours long, so her percentage of total time is probably one of the lowest on record. Another rather short lead winning performance I think is Geoffrey Rush for Shine - somewhere in the 20 - 22 minute range.
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I'm fairly sure Hopkins in The Silence of the Lambs is onscreen for more than sixteen minutes. Yet he's the only lead-nominated performance listed here. There must be shorter performance than his nominated in lead. What about Greer Garson in Goodbye Mr Chips, Eleanor Parker in Detective Story and Deborah Kerr in From Here to Eternity?
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dws1982 wrote:Gale Sondergaard in The Letter - 6:02, 4 scenes, 6%
She wasn't nominated for The Letter. But I do remenber being startled by the brevity and non-histrionics of her nominated performance in Anna and the King of Siam.
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According to IMdb:

''At 2 minutes, 32 seconds, Hermione Baddeley's performance (in Room at the Top) is the shortest Oscar-nominated performance in movie history''.
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Mister Tee wrote:I seem to recall Kathy Bates having plenty to do in Primary Colors (was there a mix-up, and they meant to reference About Schmidt?). And Cate Blanchett, for Christ's sake, had some people here saying she should be considered lead.

You're right--Kathy Bates's big confrontation with Travolta/Thompson near the end of Primary Colors is longer than many of the shortest nominated performances, and she has a lot of screentime before that. I'd even suspect that Bates's screentime in About Schmidt is probably in the fifteen minute range. And another site clocked Blanchett in I'm Not There at 29:35, with twenty-four scenes and about 22% of the film's runtime.

10:00 is erroneous on Dee--the same site clocked her at 5:42 with 13 scenes and 4% of the film's runtime. Jane Alexander in All the President's Men was also clocked at 5-and-change, rather than 8:00, with two scenes.

From the same website:
Maria Ouspenkaya, Dodsworth - 5:42, 1 scene, 5%
Maria Ouspenkaya, Love Affair - 9:39, 3 scenes, 11%
Thelma Ritter, The Birdman of Alcatraz - 10:30, 7, 7%
Beah Richards, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner - 14:05, 9, 13%

Two under ten minutes that I didn't see mentioned:
Eve Arden in Mildred Pierce - 8:22, 13 scenes, 7%
Gale Sondergaard in The Letter - 6:02, 4 scenes, 6%

And Ed Harris is included with about fourteen minutes, but there are a lot of shorter performances than his not mentioned here: Ellen Burstyn in The Last Picture Show, Talia Shire in The Godfather Part II, Geraldine Page in Your A Big Boy Now, Thelma Ritter in All About Eve, Madeline Kahn in Blazing Saddles, and probably lots of others. (These are all supporting actress, because the site I've used--the only site I know that clocks any nominated performances at all--only clocks supporting actress.)




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Mike Kelly wrote:* 05:40 Beatrice Straight (”Network,” 1976) for best supporting actress WON
* 06:00 Ned Beatty (”Network,” 1976) for best supporting actor
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* 08:00 Michael Shannon (”Revolutionary Road,” 2008) for best supporting actor TBD
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* 10:00 Ruby Dee (”American Gangster,” 2007) for best supporting actress
* 12:00 Viola Davis (”Doubt,” 2008) for best supporting actress TBD
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* 16:00 Anthony Hopkins (”The Silence of the Lambs,” 1991) for best actor WON
This might just be me, but do you get the sense that people only bitch about the brevity of nominated performances when they're women? This year, I haven't heard boo about Shannon's short time-on-screen, and both Ruby Dee last year and Viola Davis this year have been subject to scrutiny and they're both on screen for longer. (I suppose part of that is because they were/are both considered somewhat in the running for the actual win ...)
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Ditto Lynn Redgrave in Gods and Monsters and Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men -- hardly what I'd call "brief" performances.
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A couple of names on that second list truly don't fit. Clarkson has all kinds of screen time in Pieces of April, and I seem to recall Kathy Bates having plenty to do in Primary Colors (was there a mix-up, and they meant to reference About Schmidt?). And Cate Blanchett, for Christ's sake, had some people here saying she should be considered lead.
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yes, but what percentage of the screen do they take up during these minutes?
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Saw this the other day, and though there have been dedicated threads to this topic in the past, thought I'd post it here for reference:


Shortest nominated performances:

* 02:32 Hermione Baddeley (”Room at the Top,” 1959) for best supporting actress
* 05:40 Beatrice Straight (”Network,” 1976) for best supporting actress WON
* 06:00 Ned Beatty (”Network,” 1976) for best supporting actor
* 06:00 Sylvia Miles (”Midnight Cowboy,” 1969) for best supporting actress
* 06:05 Carolyn Jones (”The Bachelor Party,” 1957) for best supporting actress
* 06:10 Diane Cilento (”Tom Jones,” 1963) for best supporting actress
* 06:50 Thelma Ritter (”Pillow Talk,” 1959) for best supporting actress
* 07:10 Geraldine Page (”The Pope of Greenwich Village,” 1984) for best supporting actress
* 07:30 Maximilian Schell (”Julia,” 1977) for best supporting actor
* 08:00 Jane Alexander (”All the President’s Men,” 1976) for best supporting actress
* 08:00 Judi Dench (”Shakespeare in Love,” 1998) for best supporting actress WON
* 08:00 Charles Durning (”The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas,” 1982) for best supporting actor
* 08:00 John Lithgow (”Terms of Endearment,” 1983) for best supporting actor
* 08:00 Sylvia Miles (”Farewell, My Lovely,” 1975) for best supporting actress
* 08:00 Michael Shannon (”Revolutionary Road,” 2008) for best supporting actor TBD
* 08:30 Gladys Cooper (”My Fair Lady,” 1964) for best supporting actress
* 08:30 Anthony Quinn (”Lust for Life,” 1956) for best supporting actor WON
* 09:00 William Hurt (”A History of Violence,” 2006) for best supporting actor
* 09:50 Piper Laurie (”Children of a Lesser God,” 1986) for best supporting actress
* 10:00 Ruby Dee (”American Gangster,” 2007) for best supporting actress
* 12:00 Viola Davis (”Doubt,” 2008) for best supporting actress TBD
* 14:00 Ed Harris (”The Hours,” 2002) for best supporting actor
* 16:00 Anthony Hopkins (”The Silence of the Lambs,” 1991) for best actor WON

Other brief performances that still need to be clocked…
* Maria Ouspenskaya (”Dodsworth,” 1936) for best supporting actress
* Basil Rathbone (”Romeo and Juliet,” 1936) for best supporting actor
* Claire Trevor (”Dead End,” 1937) for best supporting actress
* Maria Ouspenskaya (”Love Affair,” 1939) for best supporting actress
* Ethel Barrymore (”The Paradine Case,” 1947) for best supporting actress
* Gloria Grahame (”Crossfire,” 1947) for best supporting actress
* Ellen Corby (”I Remember Rama,” 1948) for best supporting actress
* Gloria Grahame (”The Bad and the Beautiful,” 1952) for best supporting actress
* Thelma Ritter (”Birdman of Alcatraz,” 1963) for best supporting actress
* Cecil Kellaway (”Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?,” 1967) for best supporting actor
* Beah Richards (”Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?,” 1967) for best supporting actress
* Jack Nicholson (”A Few Good Men,” 1992) for best supporting actor
* Glenn Close (”The Natural,” 1984) for best supporting actress
* Tess Harper (”Crimes of the Heart,” 1986) for best supporting actress
* Gloria Stuart (”Titanic,” 1997) for best supporting actress
* Kathy Bates (”Primary Colors,” 1998) for best supporting actress
* James Coburn (”Affliction,” 1998) for best supporting actor WON
* Robert Duvall (”A Civil Action,” 1998) for best supporting actor
* Lynn Redgrave (”Gods and Monsters,” 1998) for best supporting actress
* Queen Latifah (”Chicago,” 2002) for best supporting actress
* Patricia Clarkson (”Pieces of April,” 2003) for best supporting actress
* Alan Alda (”The Aviator,” 2004) for best supporting actor
* Cate Blanchett (”I’m Not There,” 2007) for best supporting actress
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Franz Ferdinand wrote:Out of curiosity, how many has she been nominated for?


Kathleen Kennedy's Oscar nods:

E.T. (1982)
The Color Purple (1985)
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Seabiscuit (2003)
Munich (2005)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008)

Also got a Razzie nod for Congo (1995).




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Out of curiosity, how many has she been nominated for?
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