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Re: National Society of Film Critics Awards

Postby OscarGuy » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:39 am

Weird. In this list, Fire at Sea is second place in Non-Fiction, but in Variety where I got the data, it's I Am Not You Negro...

Someone must have put it down wrong somewhere as the NSFC website lists I Am Not Your Negro.
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Re: National Society of Film Critics Awards

Postby nightwingnova » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:06 pm

Well, great that the NSFC reflects its name now. Boo that it's lost its unique flavor.


Mister Tee wrote:Now, with numbers.

Each category was won on first ballot, so the new computer-contact-voting didn't even play a role.

BEST PICTURE
*1. Moonlight (54)
2. Manchester by the Sea (39)
3. La La Land (31)

BEST DIRECTOR
*1. Barry Jenkins (53) – Moonlight
2. Damien Chazelle (37) – La La Land
3. Kenneth Lonergan (23) – Manchester by the Sea

BEST ACTOR
*1. Casey Affleck (65) – Manchester by the Sea
2. Denzel Washington (21) – Fences
3. Adam Driver (20) – Paterson

BEST ACTRESS
*1. Isabelle Huppert (55) – Elle and Things to Come
2. Annette Bening (26) – 20th Century Women
2. Sandra Hüller (26) – Toni Erdmann [tied with Bening]

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
*1. Mahershala Ali (72) – Moonlight
2. Jeff Bridges (18) – Hell or High Water
3. Michael Shannon (14) – Nocturnal Animals

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
*1. Michelle Williams (58) – Manchester by the Sea
2. Lily Gladstone (45) – Certain Women
3. Naomie Harris (25) – Moonlight

BEST SCREENPLAY
*1. Manchester by the Sea (61) – Kenneth Lonergan
2. Moonlight (39) – Barry Jenkins
3. Hell or High Water (16) – Taylor Sheridan

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
*1. Moonlight (52) – James Laxton
2. La La Land (27) – Linus Sandgren
3. Silence (23) – Rodrigo Prieto

FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM
*1. Toni Erdmann (52)
2. The Handmaiden (26)
3. Elle (19)
3 Things to Come (19) tied

BEST NON-FICTION FILM
*1. O.J.: Made in America (64)
2. Fire at Sea (36)
3. 13th (20)

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Re: National Society of Film Critics Awards

Postby Mister Tee » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:14 pm

Now, with numbers.

Each category was won on first ballot, so the new computer-contact-voting didn't even play a role.

BEST PICTURE
*1. Moonlight (54)
2. Manchester by the Sea (39)
3. La La Land (31)

BEST DIRECTOR
*1. Barry Jenkins (53) – Moonlight
2. Damien Chazelle (37) – La La Land
3. Kenneth Lonergan (23) – Manchester by the Sea

BEST ACTOR
*1. Casey Affleck (65) – Manchester by the Sea
2. Denzel Washington (21) – Fences
3. Adam Driver (20) – Paterson

BEST ACTRESS
*1. Isabelle Huppert (55) – Elle and Things to Come
2. Annette Bening (26) – 20th Century Women
2. Sandra Hüller (26) – Toni Erdmann [tied with Bening]

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
*1. Mahershala Ali (72) – Moonlight
2. Jeff Bridges (18) – Hell or High Water
3. Michael Shannon (14) – Nocturnal Animals

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
*1. Michelle Williams (58) – Manchester by the Sea
2. Lily Gladstone (45) – Certain Women
3. Naomie Harris (25) – Moonlight

BEST SCREENPLAY
*1. Manchester by the Sea (61) – Kenneth Lonergan
2. Moonlight (39) – Barry Jenkins
3. Hell or High Water (16) – Taylor Sheridan

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
*1. Moonlight (52) – James Laxton
2. La La Land (27) – Linus Sandgren
3. Silence (23) – Rodrigo Prieto

FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM
*1. Toni Erdmann (52)
2. The Handmaiden (26)
3. Elle (19)
3 Things to Come (19) tied

BEST NON-FICTION FILM
*1. O.J.: Made in America (64)
2. Fire at Sea (36)
3. 13th (20)

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Re: National Society of Film Critics Awards

Postby The Original BJ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 pm

Wow. Director, Actor, Actress, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, Screenplay, Cinematography, Foreign Language Film, AND Documentary all simply Xerox the NY Film Critics' winners. And for Best Picture, they swap in the LA winner. This certainly doesn't feel like the same group that gave Best Picture to Goodbye to Language two years ago.

Interesting to note that Barry Jenkins did a clean sweep of the Director prizes from the four big groups, joining only Quentin Tarantino (Pulp Fiction), Curtis Hanson (L.A. Confidential), Steven Soderbergh (Erin Brockovich/Traffic), and David Fincher (The Social Network). Only one of those men went on to take the Oscar (and in a stunning upset).

At this point, if Isabelle Huppert doesn't get an Oscar nomination, it's going to feel like a huge build up to disappointment. Still, I have to express some regret at Natalie Portman's poor critical performance this year. By me, she's the clear Best Actress, and for her not to even pick up a runner-up citation anywhere is mind-boggling.

Supporting Actor is another category where the lock-step nature of the precursors seems unrepresentative of the year. This is not to denigrate Ali -- he's a solid choice -- but even in his own movie there are numerous other men who could compete with him for "best in show" designation, to say nothing of options from other acclaimed films. On the day I saw Moonlight, I'd never have believed you if you told me he'd do a Mo'Nique with the critics.

This is perhaps a conversation for another thread, but the "is it a movie, is it TV?" debate doesn't seem to be hurting O.J.: Made in America so far. But do we think that could still rear its head at some point? (I finally saw it this past week, and found it pretty staggering, but of course kept asking myself the nagging question about whether or not it was really fair to consider it a movie.)

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Re: National Society of Film Critics Awards

Postby Mister Tee » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:01 pm

And that's a wrap. Headline: NY met for a second time, and corrected its best picture choice only.

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National Society of Film Critics Awards

Postby Mister Tee » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:03 pm

The Society has begun voting. Results are being tweeted out one-by-one, with runners-up indicated. Full numbers will presumably appear, as usual, at end of day. I'll update as they're posted. (Note: The Society has finally joined the 21st Century, and is allowing its non-NY members to vote remotely, rather than being cast aside after round one. This argues for a less out-there slate, as the NY Cahierists who used to rule on later ballots are more prone to "balls" choices than their far-flung compatriots.)

3RD INTERIM NOTE: After Jenkins won yet another directing prize, following the other "New York New York" echoes, Peter Keough of the group tweeted that someone said "This is almost not fun".

2ND INTERIM NOTE: The National Society, born as an alternative to the down-the-middle NY Critics Circle, has replicated all four NY acting winners. And all on the first ballot.

NOTE: Actor, Actress and Supporting Actress (so far) all decided on first ballot. The old National Society exists on the fringe (the Huller & Driver finishes), but at this point they're clearly mostly part of the Oscar borg.

Best Film: Moonlight
run: Manchester by the Sea, La La Land
...finally, a dissent from NY -- though it only amounted to putting the same three films in different order

Best Actor: Casey Affleck (Manchester by the Sea)
ru: Denzel Washington (Fences), Adam Driver (Paterson)

Best Actress: Isabelle Huppert (Elle) & (Things to Come)
ru: Annette Bening (20th Century Women), Sandra Huller (Toni Erdmann)

Best Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali (Moonlight)
ru: Jeff Bridges (Hell or High Water), Michael Shannon (Nocturnal Animals)

Best Supporting Actress: Michelle Williams (Manchester by the Sea)
ru: Lily Gladstone (Certain Women), Naomie Harris (Moonlight)

Best Director: Barry Jenkins (Moonlight)
ru: Damien Chazelle (La La Land), Kenneth Lonergan (Manchester by the Sea)

Best Screenplay: Kenneth Lonergan (Manchester by the Sea)
ru: Barry Jenkins (Moonlight), Taylor Sheridan (Hell or High Water)

Best Cinematography: James Laxton (Moonlight)
ru: Linus Sandregn (La La Land), Rodrigo Prieto (Silence)

Best Foreign Language Film: Toni Erdmann
ru: The Handmaiden, Elle, Things to Come (I presume a tie occasions the three runners-up)

Best Non-Fiction Film: OJ: Made in America
ru: I Am Not Your Negro, the 13th
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