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Re: Nominations Reactions
I'll close this thread so that everything can go to one place.
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Why are nomination reactions spread across two different threads? It's irking me.
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So, i went 1 for 2 with my deal breakers; consider me half-broken.
I presume a lot of people will reference Far from Heaven when talking about the Carol omissions, but I'm thinking the best analogy is The Talented Mr. Ripley, another Weinstein/Highsmith effort with some gay content. Neither film could be said to have been ignored completely -- in fact, they got similar screenwriting/costuming/acting nods, totaling 5 for Ripley and a not-inconsiderable 6 here for Carol -- but both were sadly omitted in the main categories. Seeing how there were only 8 best picture nominees, what do we think was Carol's most likely failure -- to get enough overall votes, or to fall short of 5 percent in first place? I'm thinking there ought to have been enough passionate supporters to get the 5 percent; my bet would be on insufficient down ballot backup.
The only redeeming aspect is that Room, my other most-loved film, did get its big nominations, film and director (though Tremblay couldn't make the cut). The Abrahamson nod from the directors indicates the auteurist-leaning niche of the directors' branch lives on -- you can usually count on them to turn up something more interesting than the Directors' Guild.
With 12 nominations -- way at the upper end of expectation -- The Revenant has to be one of the more impressive follow-up showings from any Oscar-winning director. I still wonder if the film is going to wear well -- if its great showing here is a matter of timing, coming while it's in its first blush of box office success -- but maybe a lot of people just feel better about the film than I do. Oh, and the film joins Titanic and Gravity as recent efforts getting double-digit nods while missing screenplay. (If it had got screenplay, you'd have to have viewed it as the prohibitive front-runner.)
So, the two behemoths are big action-oriented movies whose appeal eludes me, but the two thinking man's efforts -- Spotlight and The Big Short -- got all they needed to be firmly in the race (each could have got another acting nod, but they were iffy prospects). Spotlight, in fact, seems about where we'd have put it prior to the series of early-season snubs.
Ridley Scott being left out by the directors confirms my view that that branch is very chary with nominations for frivolous movies (though I of course picked the wrong triviality to omit). It also likely eliminates it from the best picture race, despite an otherwise pretty impressive nomination haul.
Loneliest best picture contender: Brooklyn, with only two other nods. It was apparently An Education II all along.
Our month-ago reaction to the SAG nominations -- that they were crazy/non-representative -- turned out correct: by my count, only 13 of their 20 showed up here, which might be a new low, and a mere 2 of the 5 ensemble contenders made the best picture list.
With all the confusion of the season, the top acting categories turned out mostly predictable -- I got 9 of 10, failing only because of hoping for Redmayne to be ousted; I assume lots of others went perfect.
Whatever doubt there was for DiCaprio should be gone. His film's nomination haul, plus serious competition (Cranston & Fassbender) seeing their films fall short in other categories, paves the way.
Room's best picture placement probably pushes Larson closer to her deserved win, as well, though I remain concerned about her film's grosses. Very happy to see Rampling on the list -- vets like her and Jennifer Jason Keigh deserve at least one invite to the big show.
So, those if us who said SAG's supporting group might be largely replaced turned out right: only Bale and Rylance repeat. I can't say I feel voters made the best of their wide range of choices, but, unless Stallone runs away with it on sentiment, it could be a good race.
And I have no idea how to handicap supporting actress. The only best film representative is Rachel McAdams; could that help her to beat the field? Kim Basinger and Tilda Swinton both won with that advantage, over more highly-praised competitors from less-loved films.
Extremely happy Helen Mirren's Trumbo performance didn't make it.
Sorry Steve Jobs was left out of screenplay (first Globe winner since, I believe, About Schmidt not to make the transfer). But very glad for Room and Carol making the list.
It feels like many of the tech categories are going to be fierce battles between Mad Max and Revenant.
Biggest snub of the day (apart from Carol): the See You Again song. Apparently they didn't want to be associated with something so declasse as Furious 7. The obvious solution was to go with 50 Shades of Gray instead.
My favorite "I called it" of the day: Sicario for musical score. After hating Johansson's nominated work last year, I'm glad to see him here for much more interesting work. On that category in general: Desplat's omission means the perennials can't ALWAYS count on a mention...unless of course your name is John Williams. How's that category going to go, anyway? Is the fix in for Morricone -- or is Hateful Eight's very light showing (with Tarantino missing a weak category) a bad sign? Might they decide it's time to give Thonas Newman his gold watch?
I presume a lot of people will reference Far from Heaven when talking about the Carol omissions, but I'm thinking the best analogy is The Talented Mr. Ripley, another Weinstein/Highsmith effort with some gay content. Neither film could be said to have been ignored completely -- in fact, they got similar screenwriting/costuming/acting nods, totaling 5 for Ripley and a not-inconsiderable 6 here for Carol -- but both were sadly omitted in the main categories. Seeing how there were only 8 best picture nominees, what do we think was Carol's most likely failure -- to get enough overall votes, or to fall short of 5 percent in first place? I'm thinking there ought to have been enough passionate supporters to get the 5 percent; my bet would be on insufficient down ballot backup.
The only redeeming aspect is that Room, my other most-loved film, did get its big nominations, film and director (though Tremblay couldn't make the cut). The Abrahamson nod from the directors indicates the auteurist-leaning niche of the directors' branch lives on -- you can usually count on them to turn up something more interesting than the Directors' Guild.
With 12 nominations -- way at the upper end of expectation -- The Revenant has to be one of the more impressive follow-up showings from any Oscar-winning director. I still wonder if the film is going to wear well -- if its great showing here is a matter of timing, coming while it's in its first blush of box office success -- but maybe a lot of people just feel better about the film than I do. Oh, and the film joins Titanic and Gravity as recent efforts getting double-digit nods while missing screenplay. (If it had got screenplay, you'd have to have viewed it as the prohibitive front-runner.)
So, the two behemoths are big action-oriented movies whose appeal eludes me, but the two thinking man's efforts -- Spotlight and The Big Short -- got all they needed to be firmly in the race (each could have got another acting nod, but they were iffy prospects). Spotlight, in fact, seems about where we'd have put it prior to the series of early-season snubs.
Ridley Scott being left out by the directors confirms my view that that branch is very chary with nominations for frivolous movies (though I of course picked the wrong triviality to omit). It also likely eliminates it from the best picture race, despite an otherwise pretty impressive nomination haul.
Loneliest best picture contender: Brooklyn, with only two other nods. It was apparently An Education II all along.
Our month-ago reaction to the SAG nominations -- that they were crazy/non-representative -- turned out correct: by my count, only 13 of their 20 showed up here, which might be a new low, and a mere 2 of the 5 ensemble contenders made the best picture list.
With all the confusion of the season, the top acting categories turned out mostly predictable -- I got 9 of 10, failing only because of hoping for Redmayne to be ousted; I assume lots of others went perfect.
Whatever doubt there was for DiCaprio should be gone. His film's nomination haul, plus serious competition (Cranston & Fassbender) seeing their films fall short in other categories, paves the way.
Room's best picture placement probably pushes Larson closer to her deserved win, as well, though I remain concerned about her film's grosses. Very happy to see Rampling on the list -- vets like her and Jennifer Jason Keigh deserve at least one invite to the big show.
So, those if us who said SAG's supporting group might be largely replaced turned out right: only Bale and Rylance repeat. I can't say I feel voters made the best of their wide range of choices, but, unless Stallone runs away with it on sentiment, it could be a good race.
And I have no idea how to handicap supporting actress. The only best film representative is Rachel McAdams; could that help her to beat the field? Kim Basinger and Tilda Swinton both won with that advantage, over more highly-praised competitors from less-loved films.
Extremely happy Helen Mirren's Trumbo performance didn't make it.
Sorry Steve Jobs was left out of screenplay (first Globe winner since, I believe, About Schmidt not to make the transfer). But very glad for Room and Carol making the list.
It feels like many of the tech categories are going to be fierce battles between Mad Max and Revenant.
Biggest snub of the day (apart from Carol): the See You Again song. Apparently they didn't want to be associated with something so declasse as Furious 7. The obvious solution was to go with 50 Shades of Gray instead.
My favorite "I called it" of the day: Sicario for musical score. After hating Johansson's nominated work last year, I'm glad to see him here for much more interesting work. On that category in general: Desplat's omission means the perennials can't ALWAYS count on a mention...unless of course your name is John Williams. How's that category going to go, anyway? Is the fix in for Morricone -- or is Hateful Eight's very light showing (with Tarantino missing a weak category) a bad sign? Might they decide it's time to give Thonas Newman his gold watch?
Re: Nominations Reactions
Moved to the more active discussion thread.
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Nominations Reactions
Let's get an official thread going:
So, a lot went as imagined, although Ridley Scott missing a nomination for Director puts a pin in The Martian's balloon. You have to imagine that the race is now The Revenant, Spotlight and The Big Short. The Revenant is leading nominations, but do they really want to award Inarritu all over again the very next year? You could argue that Spotlight outperformed today, picking up most every bubble nomination it had (two acting citations, director and editing), while The Big Short got all of its predicted nominations except a possible Steve Carell. The Supporting categories are completely up in the air!
In other thoughts:
- Jennifer Lawrence becomes the youngest actor to 4 nominations, besting Jennifer Jones
- Stallones 39 year gap is second, I believe, to Henry Fonda in longest gap between acting nods
- Stallone also enters that small but growing crowd of nominated twice for same role
- Is Ex Machina the first film to garner the very odd combination of screenplay and visual effects as its only 2 nods?
- Lots of repeats from last year, with Inarritu, Lubezki and Redmayne all going for back-to-back wins (or in Lubezki's case, back-to-back-to-back)
So, a lot went as imagined, although Ridley Scott missing a nomination for Director puts a pin in The Martian's balloon. You have to imagine that the race is now The Revenant, Spotlight and The Big Short. The Revenant is leading nominations, but do they really want to award Inarritu all over again the very next year? You could argue that Spotlight outperformed today, picking up most every bubble nomination it had (two acting citations, director and editing), while The Big Short got all of its predicted nominations except a possible Steve Carell. The Supporting categories are completely up in the air!
In other thoughts:
- Jennifer Lawrence becomes the youngest actor to 4 nominations, besting Jennifer Jones
- Stallones 39 year gap is second, I believe, to Henry Fonda in longest gap between acting nods
- Stallone also enters that small but growing crowd of nominated twice for same role
- Is Ex Machina the first film to garner the very odd combination of screenplay and visual effects as its only 2 nods?
- Lots of repeats from last year, with Inarritu, Lubezki and Redmayne all going for back-to-back wins (or in Lubezki's case, back-to-back-to-back)
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