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Eenusch wrote:WOW. Armand White is black and gay.

I just found this out.

Now I understand why this event barely stirred a ripple beyond the New York arts world.
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WOW. Armand White is black and gay.

I just found this out.

Now I understand why this event barely stirred a ripple beyond the New York arts world.
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I just realized that. Next year's results will be released anonymously as in the past if at all.
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Not exactly safe. He was suspended for a year.
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Lou Lumenick writes some great pieces of recent DVD releases including those from the various studio archives.

Never heard Rothkopf (sounds like the name of some awful skin condition) myself as far as Armond White goes, as an admirer of Brian De Palma and Robert Altman he is OK in my books.
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Feel the wrath of Josh Wrathcop! #wrathcop
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Apparently, there's animosity between Rothkopf and Lumenick...I'm friends with Lou on FB, so I get to see some of the fireworks. The sad part is that there's no talk of disciplinary action against heckling. Regardless, it would be disgusting if the expel Lou (which they probably won't) for doing what others have done for dozens of years.
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The outgoing President of the NYFCC, Joshua Rothkopf of Time New York, has ordered an expulsion vote for next Monday for the Post's Lou Lumenick for his revelation of the vote totals the day of the nominations.
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NY Film Critics apologize for heckling of McQueen

NEW YORK (AP) — The New York Film Critics Circle has apologized for the heckling of "12 Years a Slave" director Steve McQueen at the group's awards banquet.

When McQueen was presented the best director award Monday night by Harry Belafonte, critic Armond White allegedly jeered McQueen as "an embarrassing doorman and garbage man."

In an email to "12 Years a Slave" distributor Fox Searchlight first posted online by Deadline Hollywood, NYFCC chairman Joshua Rothkopf apologized to McQueen for "the crass bit of heckling" he encountered. Rothkopf said he was "mortified" that it came from one of the group's own members and pledged "disciplinary action."

White did not immediately respond to an email Tuesday.

The CityArts editor is well known for his contrarian film reviews. He panned "12 Years a Slave" as "torture porn."
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Oh, swell.

I do recall him being hugely misquoted re: The Social Network at the NYFCC dinner, though, so I'm gonna give White the benefit of the doubt and assume it was someone else.

ETA: From Indiewire
Regarding what he called "the misreporting and the repetition of lies," Armond White wrote by email this morning: "Shame on the unprofessional bloggers, reporters or whatever they are -- you don't pursue or tell the truth."
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Asked whether or not he yelled at "12 Years a Slave" Best Director-winner Steve McQueen, Armond responded: "Wrong question, John. I was not in a position or vicinity to yell at McQueen. It was talk among my tablemates. The Variety and Wire lines are outright misquotes and lies. You might want to ask why the gutter bloggers continue to misquote and distort the event and NYFCC history."

White feels strongly that his comments should have remained contained by colleagues at his table, but clearly others around the room heard and reported them.


EARLIER: For pure shock value, Adele Exarchopoulos’ legs were the main event at Monday’s New York Film Critics Circle awards dinner, barely contained as they were in a man’s shirt disguised as a dress. Armond White? There’s not a lot of shock value left: When we sat down to eat, someone at our table said, “Let’s have a pool: How long 'til Armond goes off?” We waited a while, but Old Faithful finally blew.

You could see it coming. Steve McQueen, named best director for “12 Years a Slave,” had been a target of White’s critical wrath, and, as usual, the New York film critic-least-likely-to-go-along-with-the-crowd had gone his own way as usual: As White had written, “12 Years,” based on the memoir of Solomon Northup -- “who claims [emphasis ours] that in 1841, away from his home in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., he was kidnapped and taken South where he was sold into hellish servitude and dehumanizing cruelty” -- was in keeping with McQueen’s “interest in sado-masochistic display” and “belongs to the torture porn genre with ‘Hostel,’ “The Human Centipede’ and the ‘Saw’ franchise but it is being sold (and mistaken) as part of the recent spate of movies that pretend ‘a conversation about race.’”
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So there was no doubt in this member’s mind that if Armond were going to reprise one of his old favorites -- like “fuck you,” with which he countered accusations against the Catholic Church during the “How to Survive a Plague” portion of last year’s program -- it was going to be for the benefit of McQueen.

Harry Belafonte, who delivered what may well have been the most moving and eloquent presentation of an award this distinguished group of critics had ever heard, was allowed to deliver his words, but as soon as McQueen hit the podium, White exploded: “Doorman” and “garbageman” were the words that rang out the clearest, as well they might.

Fox Searchlight is understandably pissed, and not just about McQueen's feelings: Having left Toronto in September with many convinced that “12 Years” was the fait accompli Best Picture, they find themselves in a real contest. The nonsupport of someone even as seemingly unpredictable as Armond (who’s really rather predictable) and who is one of the few black members of the NYFCC, can’t be very welcome. And what studio is going to want to send its talent to pick up awards from the group when one of its members feels so free to be abusive? If he scares certain people off, the evening becomes, by default, the Armond White Award Show. A lot of colleagues, while occasionally bewildered by his positions on films, find Armond a very likable guy. And you certainly can’t say that about everyone in the group.

But to judge by Tuesday morning’s response by Time Out’s Josh Rothkopf (who has just finished two terms as NYFCC chair) the incident may not be over. “It amazes me that we have members who are so self-serving, they would sacrifice the decorum of our group -- both in public and during our confidential meetings -- solely to satisfy their own egos,' he wrote to members. "I can't believe we need to draft rules of conduct for adults, but apparently we do.”

Since the winners are known well in advance of the awards ceremony, and there are no real surprises save the length of the speeches and/or Adele Exarchopoulos’ legs, those who disagree with the choices have an option: Stay home
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Is it too cynical to think this is the best thing to happen for McQueen's film in the past month?
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One undeniable truth, so I'm to understand from my friends in the scene, is that the only people more toxic and abrasive than White himself are his minions, the post-apocalyptic shadow zombie world equivalent of the Paulettes.
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Did Armond White Heckle Steve McQueen at New York Film Critics Circle Awards Dinner?

Every year, contrarian critic Armond White finds a way to steal the spotlight from the actual winners at the New York Film Critics Circle Awards, and last night was no exception. During Steve McQueen's acceptance speech for Best Director for 12 Years a Slave, somebody heckled the filmmaker, yelling out comments such as, "You're an embarrassing doorman and garbage man," "Fuck you," "Kiss my ass," and "Pulease!" (That last comment came just after McQueen thanked the group for its support.) But was it White, who had previously made his non-support for 12 Years a Slave known when he called it "torture porn"?

It's his MO — we've witnessed him heckling people at this very event in years past. But last night, we couldn't see (or hear) with certainty, given his position in the back of the room. A Variety reporter said it was White. And Slate critic Dana Stevens, who was at White's table, confirmed on her Twitter feed, "Those things and more were said," but she wasn't sure if it was by White, "or one of his boorish cohort" who had been "drunk and heckling at a lesser level the whole time." Indeed, in all the noise and confusion, it could very well have been one of White's friends, and not White himself this time. However, when Vulture asked White for clarification afterward, he just glared at us as he walked out accompanied by a stumbling associate. If he had a statement to make, he was done for the night.

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Just saw American Hustle.

An absorbing exercise in humor, incisiveness, style and energy.

But not much substance.

I haven't seen all the contenders yet; so can't say if the NY critics made the right or wrong choice for best film.

I can see how the sharp script/dialogue could be the best of the year, even with a story that doesn't hold up in a couple of key plot points.

But not Jennifer Lawrence as best supporting actress. She was capable as the loopy wife but communicated only the slightest interesting character quirks with a character where much more could have been done.

Amy Adams starts off bland, but soon is an electrifying fury as Christian Bale's partner. Jeremy Renner gets the attitude right as the Italian American mayor but doesn't give his character due complexity; his crooked politician is too innocent and simple. Bradley Cooper is fine.

The revelation is Christian Bale's middle-aged, overweight grifter with scruples juggling two women and applying his small-time vision to Bradley Cooper's big-time risky one. Quite a complex, persuasive creation.
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