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Sonic and sabin.....no weisz is not lead....not even close
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No, I haven't gone the Golden Globe way. They only have one screenplay category. I went back to the old Screen Writers Guild method of separating dramas from musicals and comedies for several reasons.

1) The line between original and adaptation is blurry. So is the line between comedy and drama from Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymroe to American Beauty, but ehen a film fits in either category, I cheat a little and lean toward comedy when that category is weak and vice versa. You can't do that with original vs. adaptation.

2) Very often the original screenplay category is lame, but having one category for screenplays doesn't really do justice to the often great writing that occurs in a given year.

3) Comedies tend to get overlooked when you have just one category or a category breakdown between original and adaptaion and some of the best screen writing has been in comedies over the years.
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--Big Magilla wrote:Eventually I'd like to add cinematography, scoring and songs

Great idea. Will also add writing categories to my lists. I see Magilla that you have gone the ''Golden Globe'' way. I think I'll stick to Original vs Adaptation.




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Thanks for the encouragement, BJ. Glad to know you guys are still looking up those old posts and getting something out of them.

Eventually I'd like to add cinematography, scoring and songs (though the song category has bummed me out over the last 20 years), but I've got a full plate between now and this year's Oscars so don't look for anything too soon.
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Magilla, I've been loving the addition of your writing favorites to your lists! Any chance you might add additional categories? I'd love to see lists of your favorite songs, scores, etc.

Your lists (as well as everyone else's!) give younger film fans such as myself so many wonderful viewing ideas.
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Here's what I'd pick. Everyone's right; the Best Actress category is incredibly, profoundly weak this year. (note that my Joan Allen nomination is not the performance of hers that's making the most noise this year).

Best Picture
Capote
Good Night and Good Luck
My Summer of Love
Syriana
The Edukators
Winner: The Edukators

Best Director
Neil Jordan – Breakfast on Pluto
Hans Weingartner – The Edukators
George Clooney – Good Night and Good Luck
Pawel Pawlikowski – My Summer of Love
Gregg Araki – Mysterious Skin
Winner: Pawlikowski

Best Actor
Philip Seymour Hoffman – Capote
David Strathairn – Good Night and Good Luck
Ralph Fiennes – The Constant Gardener
Cillian Murphy – Breakfast on Pluto
Joaquin Phoenix – Walk the Line
winner: Cillian Murphy

Best Actress
Joan Allen – Off the Map
Emily Blunt – My Summer of Love
Miranda July – Me and You and Everyone We Know
Emily Mortimer – Dear Frankie
Nathalie Press – My Summer of Love
Winner: Joan Allen

Best Supporting Actor
George Clooney – Syriana
Paddy Considine – My Summer of Love
Ben Kingsley – Oliver Twist
Nick Nolte – The Beautiful Country
J.K. Simmons – Off the Map
Winner: Paddy Considine

Best Supporting Actress
Amy Adams – Junebug
Julia Jentsch – The Edukators
Catherine Keener – The Ballad of Jack and Rose
Ruth Negga – Breakfast on Pluto
Rachel Weisz – The Constant Gardener
Winner: Rachel Weisz

Best Screenplay (Original)
The Edukators
Good Night and Good Luck
The Ballad of Jack and Rose
Last Days
Me and You and Everyone We Know
Winner: The Edukators

Best Screenplay (Adapted)
Capote
My Summer of Love
Off the Map
Oliver Twist
Syriana
Winner: My Summer of Love

Best Documentary Feature
Enron: the Smartest Guys in the Room
The Fearless Freaks
Mondovino
Murderball
Reel Paradise
Winner: Enron: the Smartest Guys in the Room





I've got to honest; I'd rather be sweeping the Pennines right now.
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BEST PICTURE
*The Best of Youth
Brokeback Mountain
Good Night, and Good Luck
Junebug
The New World

BEST DIRECTOR
George Clooney - Good Night, and Good Luck
David Cronenberg - A History of Violence
Marco Tullio Giordana - The Best of Youth
Ang Lee - Brokeback Mountain
*Terrence Malick - The New World

BEST ACTOR
Joseph Gordon-Levitt - Mysterious Skin
Jake Gyllenhaal - Brokeback Mountain
Heath Ledger - Brokeback Mountain
Luigi Lo Cascio - The Best of Youth
*David Strathairn - Good Night, and Good Luck

BEST ACTRESS
*Maria Bello - A History of Violence
Emmanuelle Devos - Kings & Queen
Vera Farmiga - Down to the Bone
Q'orianka Kilcher - The New World
Reese Witherspoon - Walk the Line

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Alessio Boni - The Best of Youth
Clifton Collins, Jr. - Capote
*Jeff Daniels - The Squid and the Whale
Ciarán Hinds - Munich
Frank Langella - Good Night, and Good Luck

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
*Amy Adams - Junebug
Sonia Bergamasco - The Best of Youth
Scarlett Johansson - Match Point
Rachel Weisz - The Constant Gardener
Michelle Williams - Brokeback Mountain

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
*The Best of Youth - Sandro Petraglia, Stefano Rulli
Good Night, and Good Luck - George Clooney, Grant Heslov
Junebug - Angus MacLachlan
Match Point - Woody Allen
The Squid and the Whale - Noah Baumbach

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
*Brokeback Mountain - Larry McMurtry, Diana Ossana
The Constant Gardener - Jeffrey Caine
A History of Violence - Josh Olson
Munich - Tony Kushner, Eric Roth
Mysterious Skin - Gregg Araki

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
*The Best of Youth
Caché
Howl's Moving Castle
2046
The World

BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
Darwin's Nightmare
Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
*Grizzly Man
Murderball
The White Diamond

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
Howl's Moving Castle
Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
*Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
Hustle & Flow (It Ain't Over) - Hustle & Flow
In the Deep - Crash
It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp - Hustle & Flow
A Love That Will Never Grow Old - Brokeback Mountain
*Travelin' Thru - Transamerica

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Brokeback Mountain
*Howl's Moving Castle
King Kong
Munich
The New World

BEST ART DIRECTION
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Good Night, and Good Luck
*King Kong
The New World
2046

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
Memoirs of a Geisha
Mrs. Henderson Presents
*The New World
Pride & Prejudice
2046

BEST MAKEUP
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
King Kong
The New World
*Sin City
Star Wars: Episode III—Revenge of the Sith

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Brokeback Mountain
*Good Night, and Good Luck
A History of Violence
The New World
2046

BEST FILM EDITING
*The Best of Youth
Brokeback Mountain
Good Night, and Good Luck
A History of Violence
The New World

BEST SOUND MIXING
King Kong
Munich
*The New World
Walk the Line
War of the Worlds

BEST SOUND EDITING
Batman Begins
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
*King Kong
Star Wars: Episode III—Revenge of the Sith
War of the Worlds

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
*King Kong
Star Wars: Episode III—Revenge of the Sith
War of the Worlds




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According to their official list of eligible films, the Academy is counting it as an '05 release, so I'm doing the same even though I don't think most of the country's had a chance to see it yet.
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I'm pretty sure SPC did a week qualifying run before it's actual release.
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Bruce_Lavigne wrote:The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada

Isn't this a 2006 film, at least by Oscar standards?
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Best Picture
Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee)
A History of Violence (David Cronenberg)
King Kong (Peter Jackson)
Munich (Steven Spielberg)
The Squid and the Whale (Noah Baumbach)

Best Actor in a Lead Role
Jeff Daniels (The Squid and the Whale)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (Capote)
Terrence Howard (Hustle & Flow)
Heath Ledger (Brokeback Mountain)
David Strathairn (Good Night, and Good Luck)

Best Actress in a Lead Role
Joan Allen (The Upside of Anger)
Felicity Huffman (Transamerica)
Q'orianka Kilcher (The New World)
Laura Linney (The Squid and the Whale)
Noami Watts (King Kong)

Best Actor in a Supporting Role
Paul Giamatti (Cinderella Man)
William Hurt (A History of Violence)
Frank Langella (Good Night, and Good Luck)
Michael Lonsdale (Munich)
Donald Sutherland (Pride and Prejudice)

Best Actress in a Supporting Role
Amy Adams (Junebug)
Maria Bello (A History of Violence)
Tajari P. Henson (Hustle & Flow)
Melissa Leo (The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada)
Rachel Weisz (The Constant Gardener)

Best Director
Noah Baumbach (The Squid and the Whale)
David Cronenberg (A History of Violence)
Tommy Lee Jones (The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada)
Ang Lee (Brokeback Mountain)
Steven Spielberg (Munich)
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I almost forgot. Before War of the Worlds, I did see a documentary called In the Realms of the Unreal where Fanning provided some voiceover narration. I had no idea beforehand that she was involved with the project, so I had no idea I was supposed to hate the voice-over. I don't remember specifically disliking the narration, but the film as a whole didn't sit well with me.
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FWIW, I didn't hate Dakota Fanning in WotW or even Nine Lives (wasn't impressed, either). I must be softening in my old age.
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ITALIANO wrote:Sonic Youth, you have made some good choices too - Corinna Harfouch WAS excellent - but seriously, I'm interested - so you REALLY like Dakota Fanning..? I thought you were joking.
Yes I did.

I've never had any previous exposure with Fanning before. I've never seen her in any other film, and I don't think I've seen her in a public forum either, including interviews and award shows. So I held no grudges against her before I saw the film. I remember reading all the negative posts about her when War of the World's came out, and most of them seemed to be reactions to the sort of child she was playing rather than performance itself. I suppose if one is inclined to be repelled by overly-precocious, priveleged children, then maybe that's a testament to how effective Fanning's performance was in nailing that characterization. And if that's who she really is anyway, I don't really care. It worked for me.

Agh! I forgot about James Nesbit in Millions for the Supporting Actor category. But I don't want to remove any of the names I have already. This is a tough excersize.
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Oh yes, she doesn't act in movies often anymore, but she's still a legend on stage, and when she was younger she had some great, usually supporting roles in films with important directors (Visconti, Bertolucci, Bolognini, De Sica...). She used to be excellent playing tormented, neurotic women, but she was good in comedy too. A real talent.
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