80th Oscars: In Memorium
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Apparently, Greg, you didn't read my initial post suggesting that we NOT discuss, ad infinitum, the applause issue. Yes, we get it. It is brought up every year and it isn't going to change, so there's no point in bemoaning it in perpetuity.Greg wrote:Big Magilla wrote:It was the most insensitive memoriam segment since they deemed Dorothy McGuire unfit for inlcusion.
I think what makes these segments insensitive the most is leaving the audience sound on, where it becomes noticable who gets the most applause.
Sorry to be snippy, but it's one of those discussions I've heard far too many times...
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Why cut off at 98? Why not go for an even 100, or 120?
I suspect they excluded Brad Renfro, Edward Yang, Ulrich Muhe, Charles Lane and Bruce Bennett because either they weren't Academy members or hadn't kept up their membership whereas some of the more obscure people included had faithfully paid their annual dues.
What was most frustrating was that they gave Hilary Swank a very nice introduction in which she spoke about people whose contribution was decades ago and some with more recent credits who were taken too soon. Yet, with the exception of Ledger, they didn't inlcude anyone from the latter group. On the other end of the spectrum how can you talk about longevity and ignore the two oldest actors, both over 100, especially on a night when the special award winner is himself almost 100? It was the most insensitive memoriam segment since they deemed Dorothy McGuire unfit for inlcusion.
I suspect they excluded Brad Renfro, Edward Yang, Ulrich Muhe, Charles Lane and Bruce Bennett because either they weren't Academy members or hadn't kept up their membership whereas some of the more obscure people included had faithfully paid their annual dues.
What was most frustrating was that they gave Hilary Swank a very nice introduction in which she spoke about people whose contribution was decades ago and some with more recent credits who were taken too soon. Yet, with the exception of Ledger, they didn't inlcude anyone from the latter group. On the other end of the spectrum how can you talk about longevity and ignore the two oldest actors, both over 100, especially on a night when the special award winner is himself almost 100? It was the most insensitive memoriam segment since they deemed Dorothy McGuire unfit for inlcusion.
From the NY TImes:
Odd Man Out of Oscar Tribute
By Mike Nizza
The Oscar’s ceremony last night included a feature honoring people who died in the past year, but one of the most prominent deaths in the past year was not included. But the Academy told TMZ.com said that the decision had nothing to do with the way Brad Renfro, 25, died (heroin overdose) or the quality of his work (”The Client,” “The Pupil”).
“It is simply not possible to include everyone in that segment,” the spokesman said.
A more renowned young actor who died abruptly, Heath Ledger, was included, along with 97 others who worked in the movie business.
Odd Man Out of Oscar Tribute
By Mike Nizza
The Oscar’s ceremony last night included a feature honoring people who died in the past year, but one of the most prominent deaths in the past year was not included. But the Academy told TMZ.com said that the decision had nothing to do with the way Brad Renfro, 25, died (heroin overdose) or the quality of his work (”The Client,” “The Pupil”).
“It is simply not possible to include everyone in that segment,” the spokesman said.
A more renowned young actor who died abruptly, Heath Ledger, was included, along with 97 others who worked in the movie business.
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Ah, yes, but they had time for a montage of binoculars and periscopes....HarryGoldfarb wrote:ask again and somebody will say "they had no time"...
(Although, that WAS very funny.)
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Where the fuck were Brad Renfro and Charles Lane?
The clips were all too short, and the music was unemotional. I usually end up crying -- or at least tearing up -- at this segment but this year it left me stone cold. There was no rhythm in the editing, no build up.
The clips were all too short, and the music was unemotional. I usually end up crying -- or at least tearing up -- at this segment but this year it left me stone cold. There was no rhythm in the editing, no build up.
"Y'know, that's one of the things I like about Mitt Romney. He's been consistent since he changed his mind." -- Christine O'Donnell